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Their Labubus Are Fake, and They Don't Care

Their Labubus Are Fake, and They Don't Care

If your Labubu doll has more than nine teeth, or if it came in a box with a shiny bright finish, it may not be a Labubu at all. It may be a 'Lafufu.'
Knockoffs of the wildly popular elflike doll, which are collectively called 'the Monsters' and are sold exclusively by the Chinese toy retailer Pop Mart, have become almost as popular as the real thing — and they are much easier to find.
Many of the real Labubus come in blind boxes with limited availability, so you don't know which one you're going to get until you open it, fueling a sense of scarcity and surprise that adds to the appeal — and a growing resale market, where the dolls can go for much more than their $20 to $30 retail price range. As key chains, the dolls have been wholeheartedly adopted by the fashion set; it's not uncommon to see a $20 Labubu hanging from a $20,000 Birkin.
The hype is real: A life-size version of one of the dolls recently sold for more than $170,000 at auction, and Pop Marts in Britain briefly halted sales of the dolls in May after reports of chaotic crowd surges and fights among customers hoping to snag new releases.
Yet 'Lafufus,' as the fake figures are affectionately called, are also trending. Sold both in person (been to Canal Street recently?) and online at cheaper prices than their brethren's, they're much easier to find, even if they look a little … off.
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In Italian, we have two words to define two different kind of leaders. An authoritarian leader relies a lot on the power. 'I'm the boss. I tell you what to do. We go — bam!' They usually surround themselves by 'yes' people, they don't like very much confrontation. They can bring results, for sure, but they tend to create an environment of fear, where people don't speak up. And in my view, in particularly in a business that has to deal with creativity, if you create fear, you're done. The other kind of leader still decides, still knows that he or she is the boss, but stimulates a dialogue, listens and try to create a team and is very aware that a collective intelligence is much better. You see it also in sports. When you build a team where everybody is a super champion, most of the time, you win nothing because they are on the field thinking only about themselves and what they can do. When you build a team of great players and you have a great coach that finds a way to make them play together, that's when they win everything, and that's the one that I prefer. Three people that were working for me got promoted while I was CEO of Saint Laurent: Emmanuel Gintzburger to Alexander McQueen, Cédric Charbit to Balenciaga, and Leo Rongone to Bottega Veneta.…I always said to the team, 'When you see your colleague being promoted to CEO, it's because this person is a great talent, but also because we are strong enough as a team to go without that great talent.' You need to search for people that can work very well together. And I tend to focus more on the strengths of people rather than on the weaknesses. It doesn't mean that everybody can arrive to the top, but we don't need only top people. We need great people across the organization. When I see my team growing, I'm happy. I don't know if it's because I don't have children. 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He said, 'I think you have the characteristics to be a good merchandiser, because a good merchandiser needs to be good with numbers, but at the same time, also have a sensitivity for products, because you have to have the rational part, but also being able to embrace the creativity.' And so he gave me my first job in merchandising at Gucci. All my career has been very helpful to become a CEO, and every experience that I did was very helpful. WWD: How would you describe your leadership style? F.B.: Putting it at the service of the group and not only a brand. My style in working with the CEOs has been this one, staying close to them, having a role also of mentor. You know that the CEO is a very lonely person. In a a company, you need to be quite strong. Of course, you have your team, and the team is close to you, but you also need to protect them. You cannot throw your worries, the tension, the stress of certain situations to your team. 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Sixty-three percent of our employees are women, 57 percent of our managers are women, and more than 45 percent of our executive committee members are women, so a lot of progress has been made. You need to be given equal opportunities, and that's the culture of Kering. WWD: You have a reputation for being a very hands-on CEO, and you initially held onto the leadership of Saint Laurent when you became deputy CEO of Kering. Is it hard to let go, or are you easily finding your rewards in different ways? F.B.: It has been a process. I cried when I abandoned the role of CEO of Saint Laurent, but I wanted to give it up to make sure that I could do well my job as deputy CEO of Kering. I could not continue to do both, especially because I am also responsible for development of the jewelry brand since January. (Note: Since the interview took place, Kering also appointed a new CEO for the DoDo brand.) Also, we were ready with the succession planning. Cédric is the perfect person to take Saint Laurent to the next level. Of course, Saint Laurent is my baby. I've been there 10 years, so of course I was very emotional the day I had to leave that role. But I also learned how you can contribute from a distance. A critical part of my job today is not to substitute the CEO. I am the deputy CEO of the group in charge of brand development, so I help them developing the brand, but I would never decide in their place. Of course, if I think they are making a mistake, I intervene and I say it. There is a very open and regular dialogue, but it's very important that I respect the role, because I need the best professionals in those positions, and I need CEOs with full power. WWD: How far do you sketch out the roadmaps for the houses under your purview? F.B.: You need to have a long-term vision. The DNA of the brand is forever, like the DNA of a person. We all evolve as people, we all adapt, we all change, but we don't change who we are. I always give this example when I must define a brand. A brand for me is like a person. It has its own characteristics, values, certain icons, certain elements. And then it evolves with the times. A brand has to consider opportunities, business evolution, new markets, new ways of consumption, but the creativity always must respect the fundamental values and the brand territory. For example, now we talk about brand experiences, something never mentioned even 30 years ago. We were talking about mostly products, and in multibrand retailers. Now we are talking about products in your own stores and experiences to make sure the client is engaged. WWD: Is there still room for taking risks in the luxury landscape of today? F.B.: There are opportunities for the luxury industry to take risks, to embrace creativity even more — it's very important. Whether it's a well-known designer or a newcomer — it doesn't matter. This industry needs a stronger creative point of view. We need to sell the dream. You need to inspire, because we don't make things that people need. We do things that people want. It's very different. And the ability to create desirability is the difference in our industry. WWD: Finally, you've worked side by side with François-Henri Pinault for many years. How do you feel about the changing of the guard? F.B.: In our industry, we have to be open to changes and open to questioning ourselves. I happen to know Luca de Meo a little bit. We got to know each other because we were both interviewed for a book that has been published about Italians in Paris. We have some friends in common. For me, he's a super manager. It's incredible what he has been doing, not only at Renault, but also before. Luca de Meo is a superstar in Italy, and we all know how strong he is, so I am eager to see what he's going to bring. I'm very open to changes. From changes, we can all learn and be excited. So I'm excited for this new chapter. I've been in this group for more than 20 years. I've seen many changes happening. Every change brought something good. François-Henri stays as a chairman. So that's also important, because I think one of our values is also to be a family-led group, and this is still a family-led group, because François-Henri is our chairman, and the Pinault family is our major shareholder. But it's great to have a leader like Luca de Meo joining us with his track record. Best of WWD Bottega Veneta Through the Years Chanel's Ambassadors Over The Years Ranking Fashion's Longest-serving Creative Directors Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data

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