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With Netflix's 'Kill Tony' special, the entertainment manosphere lives on

With Netflix's 'Kill Tony' special, the entertainment manosphere lives on

Yahoo08-04-2025
When most of America last saw comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, he had gotten himself 'canceled' for jokes he cracked at a Trump campaign event in October. In reaction to outrage following his reference to Puerto Rico as 'a floating island of garbage,' among other provocations, Hinchcliffe parried the outrage and refused to apologize. 'My stance,' he told Variety, 'is that comedians should never apologize for a joke.'
Luckily for Hinchcliffe, he lives in Donald Trump's America. In that America, neither getting canceled nor refusing to say you're sorry amounts to career suicide. It might even land you a three-show deal with Netflix.
The first installment, entitled 'Kill or be Killed,' aired Monday night as an episode of the popular 'Kill Tony' podcast/stand-up showcase that's been staged weekly on Monday nights for the past 12 years at clubs around the country. Monday night's broadcast was filmed at 'Kill Tony's' present home, Joe Rogan's Mothership in Austin, Texas. Rogan himself was seated on stage, though he laughed a lot but said little.
'Stand-up at its most unforgiving — and unpredictable' is how Netflix promoted 'Kill or be Killed.' To my mind, the comedy was mostly predictable, derivative and formulaic. But that misses the point. As an artistic endeavor, 'Kill Tony' is not cutting edge, but it is culturally relevant — massively so. And it is an artistic endeavor, whatever one might think of it.
'Kill or be Killed' provides a fascinating look into the aesthetics and ethos of what I call the 'entertainment manosphere,' that growing body of art, be it comedy, cinema or music, geared toward men.
Monday night was definitely for the boys. 'Kill or be Killed' featured lots of men. Men who were happy — nay, ebullient! — to be in the company of other men as they ridiculed other men. Of the 20 or so comics who partook in 'Kill or Be Killed,' 19 of them were dudes. You could practically smell the spicy buffalo wings and Old Spice Red Zone Swagger Scent through the screen.
The humor, as I noted, is not forward looking. Some of the acts resembled the talents lampooned in 'Saturday Night Live's' The Original Kings of Catchphrase Comedy' sketch, in which characters like Goran 'Funky Boy' Bogdan and Pete 'Airhorn' Schultz make insipid jokes at ear-piercing decibels. SNL's point, I surmise, is that not every stand-up is a bold free-thinker, or even sane, or minimally educated (see Ego Nwodim's ingenious Weekend Update set as 'Miss Eggy' this past weekend). 'Kill or Be Killed' seemed eager to corroborate that assertion.
The episode blew up the usual targets: Asians, women, gays, other minorities and so forth. The R-word was used a lot. A lot. In the night's most interesting segment, Martin Phillips, a comedian with cerebral palsy, quipped that being called 'buddy' was the new R-word. Shane Gillis, who was impersonating Donald Trump, immediately responded 'and the R-community loves me.' The evening's one Black comedian, Kam Patterson, mentioned that to get laughs he drops the N-word copiously. Not missing a beat, Trump/Gillis riposted: 'We love that!' These were the funniest bits of the two-hour plus extravaganza.
Yet while 'Kill or be Killed's' brand of humor is generally regressive, its aesthetic form is far more complicated. After one-minute sets, the performers are grilled by the panel (featuring Gillis, Rogan, Hinchcliffe and others) for about 10 times as long. The practice makes an interesting point (and it also makes a virtue out of necessity): the people behind the art are more interesting than the art itself. I found these discussions with average-Joe comics — one who mowed lawns for a living, another who rode his bike to Austin from California — sort of mesmerizing.
Then there's the show's manly visual aesthetic. The set is dark. It is lined with beefy, shiny bald guys, and others in weird hats, a la "Mad Max: Fury Road." There's a live band whose musicians, perplexingly, crack up at every joke. The audience is stoked, primed for an endless cavalcade of hot man-on-man smackdowns.
The episode imparts a basic brocode: Fellas crave competition and combat. The stand-ups who do well are sometimes invited back. There was also a 'Mexican Drum Off,' a 'Kill Tony' tradition, apparently.
A key dimension of the entertainment manosphere revealed by 'Kill Tony' is that it must celebrate itself. More than a few performers lauded the show's viewpoint diversity. One comic referred to it as 'an amazing temple of free speech.' Another gushed, 'It seems like we've got a collective going."
Tonally, I see 'Kill Tony' as genetically descended from "The Man Show." I also sense the influence of radio drive-time shock jocks like Don Imus, a DJ who periodically outraged the nation with racist barbs. The use of impersonators (Joe Biden, RFK Jr., Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Dr. Phil) lend the proceedings a kind of surreal flavor, the likes of which was approximated during peak Howard Stern whose work sometimes veered into performance art.
Hinchliffe has acquired a reputation as a vicious roast comic (see his take down of Tom Brady). There is, however, an altruism to the guy. 'Kill Tony' is very 'comedian-positive.' After all, the host is offering complete unknowns, whose names are literally picked from a bucket, a huge platform.
At some point in the episode, Hinchcliffe eventually noticed that few women were on his Netflix special. In an attempt to diversify the proceedings, he forsook the bucket and called one amateur female comic to the stage. Even though her minute was unremarkable, he later invited her to perform at his Madison Square Garden show this August. I was surprised that Gillis/Trump didn't dub him Tony 'DEI' Hinchcliffe in response.
In all, it was a very manly night. Boys were boys and there was more than a little white supremacist adjacency. One comic celebrated that he could be 'racist again.' 'Tony,' joked another, 'I'm so proudboy of you.' And on and on it went. And on and on it will go; no apologies, no excuses. The entertainment manosphere is about to enjoy some very good years.This article was originally published on MSNBC.com
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We have former Wiggle Emma Watkins, 10 NEWS+ duo Amelia Brace and Denham Hitchcock, TV personality Sophie Monk, Home and Away star Jessica Redmayne and presenter Melissa King. The guests are arriving thick and fast now so we'll bring you a host of outfits for the evening. We have former Wiggle Emma Watkins, 10 NEWS+ duo Amelia Brace and Denham Hitchcock, TV personality Sophie Monk, Home and Away star Jessica Redmayne and presenter Melissa King. Poh Ling Yeow and Julia Morris show off red carpet dresses OK then, the stars are now arriving on the red carpet so let's bring you some more looks. We had a sneak peek of Julia Morris' dress earlier and here it is in full. And she's posing alongside fellow Gold Logie nominee Poh Ling Yeow who looks stunning in a green and beige number. OK then, the stars are now arriving on the red carpet so let's bring you some more looks. We had a sneak peek of Julia Morris' dress earlier and here it is in full. 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Thank god it was a broadsheet and not the Herald Sun!" she joked. Read more of the Logies' most controversial moments, including several from Karl Stefanovic, here. Wild weather not dampening spirits Our team is all set on the red carpet for this year's Logies and will be bringing you exclusive moments throughout the evening. Lachlan has opted for a warm turtle neck on what is a pretty miserable afternoon in Sydney with plenty of wind and rain. However the conditions are not impacting proceedings too much, thankfully. Our team is all set on the red carpet for this year's Logies and will be bringing you exclusive moments throughout the evening. Lachlan has opted for a warm turtle neck on what is a pretty miserable afternoon in Sydney with plenty of wind and rain. However the conditions are not impacting proceedings too much, thankfully. What food is served at the Logies? While we know there's plenty of drinks had at the Logies, what is the food like? Well according to Travel Guides stars Karly Fisher and Bri Auty, it certainly matches the occasion. The pair, who are hoping their show wins Best Lifestyle Program for the fourth year in a row, revealed to Yahoo what was on the menu last year. "I had gold-encrusted lamb. [Bri] had fish, which then I think I ate as well,' Karly recalls. 'And then there was dessert. I've actually got a video of me eating them all. I did a kind of mukbang on my phone, eating all these desserts. They were stunning. 'There was a lava cake, but not a Domino's lava cake. It was like a proper, bougie lava cake. I will say the food was what I was probably most looking forward to, and it did not disappoint. It was so yummy.' While we know there's plenty of drinks had at the Logies, what is the food like? Well according to Travel Guides stars Karly Fisher and Bri Auty, it certainly matches the occasion. The pair, who are hoping their show wins Best Lifestyle Program for the fourth year in a row, revealed to Yahoo what was on the menu last year. "I had gold-encrusted lamb. [Bri] had fish, which then I think I ate as well,' Karly recalls. 'And then there was dessert. I've actually got a video of me eating them all. I did a kind of mukbang on my phone, eating all these desserts. They were stunning. 'There was a lava cake, but not a Domino's lava cake. It was like a proper, bougie lava cake. I will say the food was what I was probably most looking forward to, and it did not disappoint. It was so yummy.' Julia Morris practices Gold Logie victory kiss Gold Logie nominee Julia Morris has given us a glimpse of her dress for the night and has practised kissing the Gold Logie award in the process. Morris has been pretty active on her socials, and yesterday also revealed a late-night manicure in her preparations for the big day. And while taking to your feet with an electric file after a cocktail isn't recommended, Morris later revealed it was all a success. Take a look at her outfit for the night below. View this post on Instagram A post shared by Julia Morris (@ladyjuliamorris) Gold Logie nominee Julia Morris has given us a glimpse of her dress for the night and has practised kissing the Gold Logie award in the process. Morris has been pretty active on her socials, and yesterday also revealed a late-night manicure in her preparations for the big day. And while taking to your feet with an electric file after a cocktail isn't recommended, Morris later revealed it was all a success. Take a look at her outfit for the night below. View this post on Instagram A post shared by Julia Morris (@ladyjuliamorris) Who has the most Logies nominations? The ABC has again dominated this year's Logies when it comes to nominations. The public broadcaster has a total of 44 nominations. Commercial network Nine is the closet competition with 23 (up to 32 if you include streaming platform Stan which it owns). Netflix's Apple Cider Vinegar about wellness influencer and conwoman Belle Gibson has an impressive eight nominations, although they are spread across just four awards. The streaming giant's Territory isn't far behind with seven nominations tonight. The ABC's Fisk has five, while Binge's Colin From Accounts and the ABC's Return To Paradise have four each. Netflix's Heartbreak High has three. The ABC has again dominated this year's Logies when it comes to nominations. The public broadcaster has a total of 44 nominations. Commercial network Nine is the closet competition with 23 (up to 32 if you include streaming platform Stan which it owns). Netflix's Apple Cider Vinegar about wellness influencer and conwoman Belle Gibson has an impressive eight nominations, although they are spread across just four awards. The streaming giant's Territory isn't far behind with seven nominations tonight. The ABC's Fisk has five, while Binge's Colin From Accounts and the ABC's Return To Paradise have four each. Netflix's Heartbreak High has three. Who is the favourite to win the Gold Logie? If you voted in our poll shared earlier, you would have seen Lynne McGranger is the clear favourite to win the Gold Logie tonight among Yahoo readers, with 37 per cent of your believing she'll take the top award. Nineteen per cent of you think Ally Langdon will win it, while 17 per cent say Poh Ling Yeow. And that's the way the bookmakers are going, with Sportsbet paying $1.37 for a McGranger win. They have Langdon at $5 and Hamish Blake at $8.50. Poh Ling Yeow is further back at $13.00 If you voted in our poll shared earlier, you would have seen Lynne McGranger is the clear favourite to win the Gold Logie tonight among Yahoo readers, with 37 per cent of your believing she'll take the top award. Nineteen per cent of you think Ally Langdon will win it, while 17 per cent say Poh Ling Yeow. And that's the way the bookmakers are going, with Sportsbet paying $1.37 for a McGranger win. They have Langdon at $5 and Hamish Blake at $8.50. Poh Ling Yeow is further back at $13.00 What time do stars start their day for the Logies? While you'll be turning on your TV set in the evening, those involved are getting ready long before you get comfy. And while some celebs' days will be busier than others, Gold Logie nominee Lynne McGranger has offered an insight into how gruelling Sunday can be. "I think I've got to do some early morning television… I'll probably do hair and makeup, and then I'll probably have a couple of hours off," she told Yahoo Lifestyle. "I'll be in makeup again I think at around lunchtime for the Logies, and then I have to be ready to go at 2.30pm – what sort of a ridiculous hour is that?" "But because I'm presenting, I've got to stay nice. I can't be necking the champagne, otherwise I'll get on stage and I'll be dribbling. So I just have to pace myself and be sensible for once in my life." While you'll be turning on your TV set in the evening, those involved are getting ready long before you get comfy. And while some celebs' days will be busier than others, Gold Logie nominee Lynne McGranger has offered an insight into how gruelling Sunday can be. "I think I've got to do some early morning television… I'll probably do hair and makeup, and then I'll probably have a couple of hours off," she told Yahoo Lifestyle. "I'll be in makeup again I think at around lunchtime for the Logies, and then I have to be ready to go at 2.30pm – what sort of a ridiculous hour is that?" "But because I'm presenting, I've got to stay nice. I can't be necking the champagne, otherwise I'll get on stage and I'll be dribbling. So I just have to pace myself and be sensible for once in my life." Sam Pang reveals this year's Logies jokes already had a run Sam Pang is returning for his third consecutive year hosting the Logies. The comedian has been a huge hit in the top gig thanks to his brutal yet hilarious approach, with no-one across Australian TV safe when it comes to his jokes. But there's plenty of work that goes into his presenting, with Pang telling Ross and Russ on 3AW Breakfast he scripted this year's jokes and trialled them at a small comedy club in Melbourne. "I got up for twenty minutes and trialled some stuff," he said, saying some material was cut based on the reaction of the audience. 'The only thing you don't want to do is get up there on Sunday night and say a joke and at the end of it they didn't even know it was a joke." Last year Pang took aim at Channel Seven's internal issues despite the network broadcasting the awards. Sam Pang is returning for his third consecutive year hosting the Logies. The comedian has been a huge hit in the top gig thanks to his brutal yet hilarious approach, with no-one across Australian TV safe when it comes to his jokes. But there's plenty of work that goes into his presenting, with Pang telling Ross and Russ on 3AW Breakfast he scripted this year's jokes and trialled them at a small comedy club in Melbourne. "I got up for twenty minutes and trialled some stuff," he said, saying some material was cut based on the reaction of the audience. 'The only thing you don't want to do is get up there on Sunday night and say a joke and at the end of it they didn't even know it was a joke." Last year Pang took aim at Channel Seven's internal issues despite the network broadcasting the awards. Who do you think will win the Gold Logie? Right. Now we've run you through the Gold Logie nominees, who do you think will win it? Have your say in our poll below. Right. Now we've run you through the Gold Logie nominees, who do you think will win it? Have your say in our poll below. Gold Logie nominee: Hamish Blake Rounding out this year's Gold Logie nominees is Hamish Blake, who has openly discouraged viewers from voting for him as the only man in the group. The comedian and radio host is nominated for Lego Masters, and previously won in both 2012 and 2022. 2025 marks his sixth nomination. Rounding out this year's Gold Logie nominees is Hamish Blake, who has openly discouraged viewers from voting for him as the only man in the group. The comedian and radio host is nominated for Lego Masters, and previously won in both 2012 and 2022. 2025 marks his sixth nomination. How many Logies awards are there? We have a new award tonight in the Ray Martin Award for Most Popular News or Public Affairs Presenter, with a total of 23 awards up for grabs tonight. With so many awards, tonight's proceedings could easily stretch well beyond the scheduled time, as it has done in the past. Last year, the Gold Logie was only handed out close to midnight. So buckle in for a long night. We have a new award tonight in the Ray Martin Award for Most Popular News or Public Affairs Presenter, with a total of 23 awards up for grabs tonight. With so many awards, tonight's proceedings could easily stretch well beyond the scheduled time, as it has done in the past. Last year, the Gold Logie was only handed out close to midnight. So buckle in for a long night.

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