logo
Weston family wants to buy Hudson's Bay charter for $12.5 million and donate it: docs

Weston family wants to buy Hudson's Bay charter for $12.5 million and donate it: docs

TORONTO - The royal charter that formed Hudson's Bay about 355 years ago could soon be getting a new home.
The Canadian Museum of History announced Wednesday that Wittington Investments Ltd., a private Canadian holding company for the Weston family, wants to buy the document for $12.5 million and donate it to the Quebec institution.
The charter was signed by King Charles II in 1670. It gave the Bay rights to a vast swath of land spanning most of Canada and extraordinary power over trade and Indigenous relations for decades more.
The museum says the acquisition still needs court approval but if that is obtained, the Westons will donate the document immediately and permanently.
'At a time when Canada is navigating profound challenges and seeking renewed unity, it is more important than ever that we hold fast to the symbols and stories that define us as a nation,' said Galen Weston in a statement.
'The Royal Charter is an important artifact within Canada's complex history. Our goal is to ensure it is preserved with care, shared with integrity, and made accessible to all Canadians, especially those whose histories are deeply intertwined with its legacy.'
His family made its fortune through Canadian retail chains including Holt Renfrew, as well as several European department stores.
As part of its proposed purchase of the charter, the family has offered $1 million in additional funding. The museum said it will support 'a meaningful consultation process' with Indigenous Peoples on how the Royal Charter 'can be shared, interpreted and contextualized in a manner that respects Indigenous perspectives and historical experiences.'
The funding will help the museum share the charter with other museums and through public exhibitions.
Caroline Dromaguet, the museum's president and CEO, said the donation is of 'enormous importance to Canada' and 'will serve as a catalyst for national dialogue, education and reconciliation for generations to come.'
The Westons expressed an interest in the charter in May, after the Bay filed for creditor protection in March under the weight of $1.1 billion in debt. It made a formal offer by June.
The Bay was drawn to the $12.5 million offer because it 'substantially' exceeded the value the charter had been given during a 2022 insurance appraisal, said Adam Zalev, co-founder of Bay financial advisor Reflect Advisors, in a court filing made Wednesday.
The Bay also liked the offer because of the additional funding to ensure Indigenous communities and archival institutes have access to the charter.
The charter was originally due to be sold during a future auction the Bay was preparing to run with Heffel Gallery to sell 2,700 artifacts and 1,700 art pieces the retailer owned. A court motion filed Wednesday asks a judge to approve the removal of the charter from any eventual auction.
When the Bay first floated the idea of running an auction to offload its treasures, it sparked concern from archival institutions, governments and Indigenous groups, including the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs. They worried it would allow pieces of Canadian and Indigenous history to wind up in private hands and away from public view.
To quell their concerns, the Bay started allowing groups to view an inventory of the collection if they sign non-disclosure agreements.
A source familiar with the Bay's collection, who was not authorized to speak publicly, told The Canadian Press previously that paintings, point blankets, paper documents and even collectible Barbie dolls are part of the trove.
Historians believe the charter is likely the most coveted piece the retailer owned.
'It's 100 per cent their crown jewel,' said Cody Groat, a historian of Canadian and Indigenous history who serves as the chair of the UNESCO Memory of the World Advisory Committee in an April interview.
'There is no doubt this is the most significant document that the Hudson's Bay Company has access to or that they've ever produced.'
Thomas Caldwell, CEO of Toronto investment manager Urbana Corp., agreed. He told The Canadian Press in the spring that he was interested in purchasing and giving the parchment document with a royal wax seal to a museum.
At the time, he said donating the piece would 'make more sense' for whoever buys it because 'it's a big hassle to have something historic like that in an office or in a home.' He speculated that it would need to be insured, have constant security and likely require storage in precise temperatures to preserve it.
For many years, the Bay kept the royal charter at its head office in Toronto, but Zalev said it was recently moved to 'a secure facility specifically equipped to store and protect important documents, art and artifacts.'
The charter was temporarily loaned to the Manitoba Museum in 2020.
That museum and the Archives of Manitoba hold the bulk of the Bay's artifacts. The company donated them to the organizations in the 1990s, so many thought they'd be a natural home for the charter.
'We think of (the charter) as part of our records in a way already because ... we've got the rest of the story and so we feel like it makes sense for the charter to be here and to be as publicly accessible as any of the other records,' Kathleen Epp, keeper of Manitoba's Hudson's Bay Co. archives, told The Canadian Press in April.
This report by The Canadian Press was first published July 30, 2025.
Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

Mismatched financial expectations? How to cope in a relationship where one partner out-earns the other
Mismatched financial expectations? How to cope in a relationship where one partner out-earns the other

Yahoo

timean hour ago

  • Yahoo

Mismatched financial expectations? How to cope in a relationship where one partner out-earns the other

For some, the road to marriage can look financially lopsided. Those in their 30s earning their fair share — say, more than $100,000 a year — may be used to covering 100% of their individual household expenses. However, it doesn't typically feel good when a fiancé refuses to contribute, claiming their money is only for 'fun,' not 'responsibilities.' This is particularly troubling given cost of living increases and how those are reflected in the cost of non-negotiable spending. According to Statistics Canada, the average household spent about $76,750 annually on expenses in 2023, including housing, transportation and food, the three largest categories. In a two-person household, those costs can quickly add up. And when only one person is footing the bill, the financial and emotional burden becomes even heavier. Don't Miss Want an extra $1,300,000 when you retire? Dave Ramsey says this 7-step plan 'works every single time' to kill debt, get rich — and 'anyone' can do it The Canadian economy is showing signs of softening amid Trump's tariffs — protect your wallet with these 5 essential money moves (most of which you can complete in just minutes) I'm almost 50 and don't have enough retirement savings. What should I do? Don't panic. Here are 6 solid ways you can catch up The red flags of an unequal dynamic While differences in income are normal, refusing to contribute entirely can trigger long-term problems. When one partner sacrifices and handles 100% of the financial responsibilities, their personal finances may suffer down the road, while the other partner gains. This creates several challenges: Budget strain: Even with a six-figure salary, carrying the full weight of household costs limits your ability to save, invest or spend on yourself. Lifestyle imbalance and negative emotions: When one person is financially constrained while the other uses their full income for leisure, it can foster resentment. Power imbalance: Financial inequality can also seep into decision-making. The partner who pays for everything may feel overburdened and unheard, while the non-contributing partner may avoid accountability. Future financial insecurity: Without shared financial planning, big goals — from buying a home to starting a family — may be delayed or derailed entirely. It's about more than just paying the bills: Aligning your values, goals and decisions is important in a successful relationship. How to address it before saying 'I do' Before walking down the aisle, a couple in this situation needs to have a candid conversation in a productive, structured way. If you see yourself as the "giving" half of your relationship, here are a few practical steps to take to hopefully see change. 1. Have a values-based conversation Frame the conversation not as a confrontation, but as a shared planning session for your future. You can try something like: 'I want us to feel like we're building something together. Can we talk about how we want to manage money as a team?' Focus on shared goals, like housing, travel, kids and retirement, and how to achieve them together. Read more: 'You're going to live on beans and rice': This senior told Dave Ramsey she has debt and zero savings — 2. Consider financial counseling If emotions are running high, a third party can help. Premarital or financial counselling can uncover deeper money beliefs and create shared understanding. Resources, like the Canadian Association for Financial Empowerment, can help you locate professionals near you. You can also seek help from a financial advisor, who can look at you and your partner's financial health and find ways to be more reasonable with your money, like finding ways to save for the future, while also finding avenues for realistic, personal indulgences. 3. Propose a fair cost-sharing model A practical approach is using a cost-sharing model like a proportional contribution one. Under this, you'd figure out the proportion of total household income you each bring in. This system keeps contributions equitable while acknowledging income disparities. For example, say you earn 70% of your combined income and your partner earns 30%. You'd each contribute these proportions toward shared costs. So, if those costs are $65,000 annually, you'd pay $45,500 per year, while your partner would pay $19,500 per year. You can also look into a budgeting app, which can help bolster more thoughtful money management and create an actionable and trackable plan moving forward. 4. Set boundaries and deadlines If your partner continues to resist contributing, it's worth asking yourself if this is a difference in values or a refusal to partner in life. Marriage is a financial partnership as much as an emotional one. Put yourself first by setting a deadline to revisit the conversation and being honest with yourself about your limits. What To Read Next Here's how to retire in 10 short years no matter where you live in Canada — even if you're starting with $0 savings Here are 5 expenses that Canadians (almost) always overpay for — and very quickly regret. How many are hurting you? Are you rich enough to join the top 1%? Here's the net worth you need to rank among Canada's wealthiest — plus a few strategies to build that first-class portfolio Pet owners, here's how you can get up to 90% cashback on expensive emergency veterinary bills — and you can even get a free quote in 30 seconds 1. Statistics Canada: Survey of Household Spending, 2023 (May 21, 2025) This article provides information only and should not be construed as advice. It is provided without warranty of any kind.

The AI 'algorithmic audit' could be coming to hotel room checkout
The AI 'algorithmic audit' could be coming to hotel room checkout

CNBC

timean hour ago

  • CNBC

The AI 'algorithmic audit' could be coming to hotel room checkout

Artificial intelligence can lead to surprises in all sorts of places where a bill once would have been considered settled. The use of AI by Hertz (and European car rental company Sixt) to scan for damage on cars, which is then charged to the customer, is a new application of the technology that is creeping into consumer life unnoticed. But it won't be the last unexpected adjustment to the travel experience courtesy of AI. Experts say consumers should expect to see businesses across the service industry deploying similar technology in the future, if they aren't already. "As businesses seek to automate loss prevention and operational efficiency, we're witnessing the emergence of what I call 'algorithmic auditing' – the systematic deployment of AI to identify, classify, and monetize previously overlooked inefficiencies or losses," said Shannon McKeen, professor of the practice and executive director for the Center for Analytics Impact at Wake Forest University School of Business. The Hertz program, recently reported on by the New York Times, is the beginning of what McKeen describes as a broader transformation, and new fault line, in the service economy. "The implementation of these systems reveals a fundamental tension between operational efficiency and customer satisfaction and equity," McKeen said. The question isn't simply whether AI can detect a scratch on a rental car bumper. "It's whether businesses should charge customers for every microscopic imperfection that algorithms can identify but human judgment might reasonably overlook as normal wear and tear," he said. McKeen says the dialogue between service agent and customer over costs will increasingly include a new term: "the machine says." Hotels are working their way through these changes, according to Jordan Hollander, cofounder of a research platform that helps hotels find new digital and AI products to improve efficiency. "I've been seeing more hotels experiment with AI across operations, but not quite in the same way Hertz is using it for automated damage detection and billing. That said, we're not far off," Hollander said. Some hotels, for instance, are already using AI-powered sensors to monitor air quality and trigger fines for smoking or vaping in rooms. But Hollander warns that sometimes the sensors trigger false positives. "Like someone using a hairdryer or aerosol spray — and guests get hit with $500 charges without ever lighting up. It's not hard to imagine how that could go south quickly," Hollander said. But unlike the car rental example, most hotels haven't automated the billing step yet. "They're using AI more to flag potential issues — like a room that smells off, linens that don't meet standards, or maintenance problems — and then looping in a human for the final call," Hollander said. For now, the AI is acting more like a very observant assistant than a judge and jury. "But it's clear that hotels are heading in the same direction," he said. "Between computer vision that can detect damage or wear in a room, and AI that analyzes guest behavior or room conditions in real time, the tech is already there." In a hospitality industry where trust is everything, there are reasons for hotels to move with caution. To date, many hotel operators are using AI to improve things like housekeeping efficiency, energy usage, and guest messaging — but they're being cautious about when and how it impacts the guest directly in a way that can be perceived to hurt the experience. "There's a risk of backlash if hotels start billing guests based solely on what an algorithm says. The moment a guest gets a charge and can't get a straight answer about why or how it was verified, you're in dangerous territory," Hollander said. "If guests feel like they're being watched or nickel-and-dimed by a machine, it undermines the relationship completely," he added. Recent experience in the hotel industry provides at least one cautionary tale, according to Hollander, referring to a custom-modified Alexa for hotels. "Years ago, the hot thing was voice devices, and that never really took off for this reason," he said. A Hertz spokeswoman told CNBC that AI brings uniformity and consistency to the checkout process. "For years, vehicle damage inspections have caused confusion and frustration. The process was manual, subjective, and inconsistent, and that isn't good enough for our customers or our business," she said. She added that with digital vehicle inspections, Hertz is introducing "much-needed precision, objectivity, and transparency to the process – giving our customers greater confidence that they won't be charged for damage that didn't occur during their rental, and a more efficient resolution process when damage does occur." Of the 500,000 rentals scanned so far, more than 97% showed no billable damage, according to Hertz, and damage incidents are declining at scanner-equipped locations. The Hertz spokeswoman acknowledged that the new system is still a work in progress. "We know change of this scale takes time, and we're listening, learning, and improving every day. As we said from the start, our goal through this initiative is to enhance the safety, quality, and reliability of our fleet and to create a more consistent rental experience for our customers." AI excels at pattern recognition, but where it may fall short is with the nuanced decision-making that has historically characterized good customer service, according to McKeen. "What makes these systems particularly problematic is the erosion of contextual judgment," McKeen said. Traditionally, business relationships relied on human discretion to navigate gray areas like "when does a scuffed tire represent normal use versus chargeable damage? When does a hearty portion in a restaurant satisfy a hungry customer versus being wasteful?" Other companies will be watching Hertz closely to see how the AI experiment works out, he said, and then jump right in on the profit opportunity if it is determined that use of the technology won't drive customers away. The use of AI for cost recouping isn't widespread yet because companies have not figured out the balance between customer trust and implementing AI, and the benefit, so far, doesn't outweigh the potential loss in loyalty, said Chuck Reynolds, managing director at L.E.K Consulting and a member of the firm's digital practice. The key for companies to implement these cost recouping tools is transparency. "While the opportunity for AI is huge, organizations need to be thoughtful about embedding it as a copilot, not police or enforcer," Reynolds said. Sustomers will accept AI as part of the experience, he added, if companies are fair, visible, and design the AI experience with empathy. "AI has to have customer-centricity built into its core," Reynolds said, and companies have to keep a role for humans in the process to oversee and override the AI if necessary. "Organizations that do so without thinking through the entire process will have challenges with internal adoption and customer adoption," Reynolds said. Customers should expect to see more of the technology Hertz is deploying in different settings, according to David Rivera, professor of hospitality and tourism at Flagler College. In addition to hotels, the future could include restaurants using AI to itemize plates to ensure accurate billing. But Rivera says all of this is being done with the goal of operational efficiency rather than to punish the customer. Use of AI in hospitality is evolving from passive data collection to active use of real-time decision-making tools, Rivera said, and that includes things like monitoring your rental car or how much you are raiding the mini-bar in your hotel room. "The common thread is increased operational efficiency, enhanced guest satisfaction, and automation of traditionally manual tasks, with a layer of accountability and transparency for both guest and provider," Rivera said. Not everyone is on board with that view, however. "This trend is absolute overkill with AI solution capabilities," said Daniel Keller, CEO of cloud infrastructure company Influx Technologies, which provides data collection and data analysis tools. "This particular use of AI doesn't increase efficiency; it scrutinizes customers of small-margin service businesses looking to suck extra money out of guest experiences."

Elon Musk's long history of having a short fuse and burning through friends and relationships: ‘he busts up with everybody'
Elon Musk's long history of having a short fuse and burning through friends and relationships: ‘he busts up with everybody'

New York Post

time2 hours ago

  • New York Post

Elon Musk's long history of having a short fuse and burning through friends and relationships: ‘he busts up with everybody'

Become friends with Elon Musk and, likely, the clock will be ticking. Characters as diverse as Silicon Valley tech moguls and Canadian alt-pop singer Grimes have all entered his personal orbit before later screeching out again, usually followed by some degree of scorched earth via social media. There is no greater example than Musk's relationship with now-President Donald Trump. Everyone knew the richest man in the world would fall out with the most powerful, but few predicted it would happen so quickly — just six months after the inauguration. 'He is prone to lash out,' admitted Faiz Siddiqui, author of 'Hubris Maximus: The Shattering of Elon Musk,' to The Post. 'He is insulated and can make his point.' Advertisement Regardless of how sharp the point may be, Musk can shed a friend and walk away unscathed. 15 Elon Musk has been known to bring disagreements to X and to comment publicly. Getty Images 'He has an army, the largest following on X [the social media platform], that will back him.' Advertisement Here then is a sampling of former friends, colleagues and loved ones who once embraced Musk, only to later feel the burn. Larry Page Google co-founder Larry Page and Elon Musk were so chummy Musk routinely crashed at Page's home. Fortune included the pair in a story about 'eight business leaders you didn't know were BFFs.' But things fell apart when Musk hired a top scientist away from Google in 2015. Musk's artificial intelligence company, xAI, paid Ilya Sutskever $1.9 million to head up its new lab. According to 'Musk,' by Walter Isaacson, the poaching ended their friendship. 'Larry felt betrayed and was really mad at me,' Musk told Isaacson in the book. 'He refused to hang out with me anymore.' Advertisement 15 Larry Page of Google fell out with Elon Musk after Musk poached one of his employees. AFP/Getty Images Zack 'Asmongold' Hoyt It's hard to imagine the world's richest man in a childish spat with an online gaming streamer. But that was the situation with Musk and Zack 'Asmongold' Hoyt. Like other professional gamers, Asmongold watched Musk playing 'Path of Exile 2' on a livestream. Following common sentiment, he alleged Musk paid other people to play for him, which is called 'boosting.' Apparently insulted by the allegation, Musk unfollowed Asmongold and removed his blue checkmark from X. In response, Asmongold posted a YouTube video called 'Elon Musk has Lost It.' Advertisement Musk went on to push out private direct messages between them. Forbes summed up the fallout by noting about Musk, 'He may not really have time to beef with Twitch streamers … Yet, here we are.' 15 The gamer Zack 'Asmongold' Hoyt saw his relationship with Elon Musk fizzle after he accused Musk of boosting a computer game. Asmongold/ X Justine Wilson Justine Wilson was married to Musk from 2000 to 2008. She watched him become a billionaire and bore six children (one of whom died tragically at 10 weeks due to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). She later described herself as a 'starter wife.' Musk, according to Wilson, told her, 'If you were my employee, I would fire you.' After eight years and three sessions of couple's counseling, Musk filed for divorce. During two years of litigation – which Musk said cost him $4 million – she rallied for their house in Bel Air, 10 percent of his Tesla shares, 5 percent of his SpaceX shares, $6 million and a glacier blue Tesla Roadster. But thanks to a prenup, Wilson said, 'I had effectively sold away all my rights as a married person.' She wound up with far less than the billions won by other tech divorcees like Bill Gates' ex Melinda French and Jeff Bezos' firs wife, MacKenzie Scott. While Forbes estimates Wilson's wealth at $18 million, they also estimate she would have $17.3 billion had she received the settlement requested. 15 Elon Musk and Justine Wilson when they were still married to one another. Justine Musk Advertisement 15 Had Elon Musk given ex-wife Justine Wilson what she asked for in their divorce, Wilson would be a billionaire today. AFP via Getty Images Vivian Jenna Wilson Originally name Zavier, Vivian Jenna Wilson was born male, to Musk and Justine, along with a twin sister, in 2004. Responding to Vivian's transgender identity, Musk publicly maintained that his offspring was 'not a girl' and described them as being 'dead' to him. Vivian went to a California court to change their name and distance themselves from their father. 'I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,' Vivian stated in the filing. 15 Vivian Jenna Wilson told a California court that she no longer wishes 'to be related to my biological father.' Vivian Jenna Wilson/TikTok Philip Low Advertisement After meeting Elon Musk socially in 2011, neuroscientist Philip Low, who had been a test subject for Stephen Hawking, became fast friends with the Silicon Valley mogul. Soon after, Low launched a company called NeuroVigil, which boasted a non-invasive device for brain monitoring. Musk invested and joined the board. In 2021, according to Politico, Musk – who had his own brain implant company, Neuralink – wanted to resign from the other company's advisory board. Not wanting him to exercise his stock options, which could significantly hurt Neurovigil, Low fired him. He sent an email to Musk, warning, 'Don't f—k with me.' Advertisement According to Politico, Low '[cast Musk] as obsessive, prone to seeking revenge, power hungry and in constant search of dominance.' 15 Philip Low warned Musk 'don't f–k with me' when he started making noise about exiting his brain implant start-up. Martin Eberhard In 2003, Martin Eberhard was one of two co-founders who incorporated Tesla. Elon Musk invested in the company and, one year later, became chairman. Musk was later recognized as a cofounder, following a lawsuit. 'That was a side issue and it got sorted out,' Siddiqui told The Post. The falling out has more to do with Musk 'claiming that he was almost solely responsible for the company.' Advertisement It doesn't help that Musk ousted Eberhard from his CEO post in 2007, according to Business Insider. Musk has since described Eberhard as 'by far the worst person I've ever worked with in my entire career.' In 2009, Eberhard sued Musk for defamation. Though the suit was settled out of court, in Isaacson's Musk bio, Eberhard does marvel, 'This is the richest man in the world beating on someone who can't touch him.' 15 Martin Eberhard wonders why 'the richest man in the world' would be 'beating on someone who can't touch him.' AP Sam Harris Disagreeing with Elon Musk might not be a good way to foster a friendship with him. The neuroscientist Sam Harris discovered this the hard way. Harris and Musk first became acquainted in 2008. They fell out in 2020 when Musk tweeted 'the coronavirus panic is dumb.' Harris has claimed that he asked Musk to 'walk back' from the position. 'There was a question about Musk weighing in on something that he does not have the expertise to weigh in on,' said Siddiqui. 'Is that putting people at risk?' Harris claimed Musk bet $1 million with him that there would be no more than 35,000 COVID-19 cases in America. If the number exceeded 35,000 Harris would be paid $1 million, to go to a charity. If it did not, Musk would get a $10,000 bottle of tequila. Harris obviously won. But did the million materialize? His texts went unanswered. Since then, via X, Musk called Harris 'mentally ill.' 15 Neuroscientist Sam Harris claims that musk lost a $1 million bet to him and did not pay it. YouTube/ Recode Harris said there is 'something seriously wrong with [Musk's] moral compass.' Grimes The singer whose real name is Claire Boucher was romantically involved with Elon Musk from 2018 until 2021. They have three children with unique names: X AE A-XII (aka, X), Exa (aka, Y) and Techno Mechanicus. There have also been suits and countersuits over custody. In February 2025, Grimes posted to X Musk should respond to a 'medical crisis' involving one of their children. When somebody questioned her taking a private situation to social media, she replied, 'If I have to apply public pressure then I guess that's where we're at.' X accompanied Musk when he met with President Trump in the Oval Office. Grimes allegedly posted to X she does 'not approve that in every conceivable way … I am desperate to solve it … But currently I don't know how to do it.' 15 Grimes went to X to ask Elon Musk to respond to a 'medical crisis' involving one of their children. Getty Images Sam Altman In 2015, Musk, Altman and others founded artificial intelligence company OpenAI as a non-profit. It then launched its for-profit arm, ChatGPT. Musk and Altman then fell out over the direction of the company. 'Musk wanted OpenAI to hold onto this idea that it is a non-profit,' said Siddiqui. 'Like that it would be for the good of humanity.' When Musk moved to buy OpenAI, Altman, 40, accused the tech billionaire of being in 'a position of insecurity,' adding 'I feel bad for the guy.' He also recently told The Post: 'Elon busts up with everybody, that's what he does,' the 40-year-old golden boy behind ChatGPT told The Post. Musk has taken to referring to Altman as 'Scam Altman.' 15 X, standing in front of Elon Musk, is his child who accompanied him to the White House. Getty Images 15 Regarding his former partner Elon Musk, Sam Altman said, 'I feel bad for the guy.' REUTERS Jack Dorsey Dorsey co-founded micro-blogging site Twitter, which Musk eventually bought and re-named X. In 2022 as the deal was about to go through, Dorsey went so far to say he had faith in Musk's 'mission to extend the light of consciousness.' But once in place, Musk made job cuts, changes in policy and the name change. By 2023, Dorsey was saying Twitter 'went south' after his purchase. 15 Twitter cofounder Jack Dorsey claimed that the site 'went south' after Elon Musk took it over. Getty Images Peter Thiel Peter Thiel and Elon Musk have known each other long enough for their relationship to be complicated. In 2000, they combined their respective banking companies to create PayPal. By 2025, it's been a bit of a roller coaster. According to Thiel biography 'The Contrarian,' the two men realized their differences early on. Soon after the merger, Musk crashed his million dollar McLaren while driving Thiel to a meeting. Thiel, according to the book's author, saw Musk as reckless. Musk viewed Thiel as profit driven. Following the merge, while Musk was on his honeymoon, Thiel and his loyalists pushed Musk out of his CEO spot. But the grudge didn't hold. After all, when Musk's SpaceX was going through choppy times in 2008, Thiel provided a $20 million investment that set the company right — and its rocket entered orbit on its next attempt. Though they have called one another unflattering names – according to Business Insider, Musk regards Thiel as 'a sociopath' and Thiel views Musk as 'a fraud' – Siddiqui sees common ground. 'I think philosophically they are largely aligned,' he said. 'In the political arena, they have advocated for a lot of the same policies.' 15 Peter Thiel is said to view Musk as 'a fraud' while Musk is said to view Thiel as a 'sociopath.' AP Vernon Unsworth Sometimes two people try to do the right thing and it goes terribly sideways. Such was the case when Elon Musk and British caver Vernon Unsworth pitched in to save 12 boys trapped in a waterlogged Thai cave system for 15 days. Musk sent engineers from Tesla and a mini submarine to the site. Unsworth took a more traditional approach, finding skilled cave divers and dispatching them to where the boys – members of a Thai soccer team – were trapped. Musk's vessel never got used and Unsworth dubbed it a PR stunt, suggesting that he 'stick his submarine where it hurts.' Musk entertained his 30 million followers on X by dubbing the diver 'pedo guy' in a since deleted tweet. 15 Vernon Unsworth, who helped save the Thai kids trapped in a cave, sued Elon Musk for defamation. The legal action was unsuccessful. AP Unsworth sued for defamation Musk insisted that, in his native South Africa, 'pedo guy' is a common phrase. The kids were saved, Musk was found not guilty of defamation. Musk's lawyer stated the obvious in his summing up: 'In arguments, you insult people.'

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into a world of global content with local flavor? Download Daily8 app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store