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Kobe Bryant not in NBA's all-time top 10? Shaq thinks that ranking is 'criminal'

Kobe Bryant not in NBA's all-time top 10? Shaq thinks that ranking is 'criminal'

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Shaquille O'Neal, left, and Kobe Bryant, shown in 2017, won three NBA titles together as Lakers teammates. (Mark J. Terrill / AP)
Shaquille O'Neal has an issue with a recent ranking of the all-time best NBA players.
On Monday, Bleacher Report released its list of the "top 100 NBA players ever," based on a compilation of rankings from a "legion of B/R NBA experts, writers and editors."
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O'Neal finished just outside the top five. He didn't seem to have an issue with that.
Shaq's beef was with the placement of his former Lakers teammate, the late Kobe Bryant, who landed outside of the top 10.
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"Kobe at 11 is criminal," O'Neal wrote on X in the comments of a Bleacher Report post that revealed the list's top 20. He left his comment a little more than an hour after the original Bleacher Report post went live.
Here are the 10 players ranked ahead of Bryant, in order from the top: Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Bill Russell, O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, Wilt Chamberlain and Stephen Curry.
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Bryant is followed on the list by Hakeem Olajuwon, Kevin Durant, Oscar Robertson and Jerry West.
O'Neal has made no secret of his feelings on where Bryant ranks among the league's all-time greats. In 2023, the Diesel told The Times that his "first team" on such a list would be himself, Bryant, Jordan, Johnson and James.
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(Coming off the bench for O'Neal on that hypothetical team were Curry, Allen Iverson, Duncan, Karl Malone, Isiah Thomas and Abdul-Jabbar.)
Last month, in connection with the Netflix docuseries "Power Moves with Shaquille O'Neal," Shaq revealed another personal top 10 list in which he ranked Bryant at No. 2, behind Jordan and just ahead of James.
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Bryant ranks fourth in all-time NBA scoring (33,643 points) and his "Mamba Mentality" work ethic is still cited as a major influence on current athletes. He spent the first eight years of his career as Lakers teammates with O'Neal, with L.A. winning three NBA titles during that span.
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Those Lakers also lost to the Detroit Pistons in the 2004 NBA Finals. Soon after, O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat, with tension between the two superstars seen as one of the main reasons for the move. O'Neal won another NBA title with the Heat in 2006. Bryant won two more with the Lakers, in 2009 and 2010.
Over the years, O'Neal and Bryant acknowledged their rocky relationship as teammates but also insisted that they actually were close friends.
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'I just want people to know that I don't hate you, I know you don't hate me. I call it today a 'work beef,' is what we had,' O'Neal told Bryant on 'The Big Podcast with Shaq' in 2015.
"We had a lot of disagreements, we had a lot of arguments," he said later. "But I think it fueled us both.'
Years later, when it appeared their feud might be heating up again, the two NBA greats took to social media to nip that notion in the bud.
"Ain't nothin but love there," Bryant wrote of his relationship with O'Neal.
'It's all good bro,' Shaq responded.
Bryant and his daughter Gianna were among the nine people who died in a Jan. 26, 2020, helicopter crash in Calabasas. O'Neal was one of the speakers at the Feb. 24, 2020, memorial service for "my friend, my little brother Kobe Bryant and my beautiful niece Gigi."
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"Kobe and I pushed one another to play some of the greatest basketball of all time and I am proud that no other team has accomplished what the three-peat Lakers have done since the Shaq and Kobe Lakers did it," O'Neal said. "And sometimes like immature kids, we argued, we fought, we bantered, we assaulted each other with offhand remarks on the field. Make no mistake, even when folks thought we were on bad terms, when the cameras are turned off, he and I would throw a wink at each other and say let's go whoop some ass.
"We never took it seriously. In truth, Kobe and I always maintained a deep respect and a love for one another."
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NBA Summer League 2025: How to watch, full game schedule and more

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Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson ready to lead promising young Pistons

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