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Fake reality TV dancers forever worrying about 'the Nationals'

Fake reality TV dancers forever worrying about 'the Nationals'

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Every parent knows what it's like to have to sit next to their kid while they watch some show that is wonderful to them but painful to the adult.
And you end up watching the show so often that it becomes burned into your subconscious.
Such is the case with The Next Step, which my daughter - who is now well into her teens - used to watch when she was little.
Looking at this latest episode (from season 10 so the show obviously has some legs) I can see little about this series set in a pretend dance studio has changed.
It is still based heavily around a fake reality TV vibe, where the actors deliver pieces to camera as their character. Sure, it's a show for kids, but this is a really, really lazy way to provide the viewer with information.
Also, there is still the unceasing quest to make "the nationals" - which is some sort of dance competition that forever hangs over their heads.
I swear they mention "the nationals" at least a half-dozen times in every single episode. It's like it is the only thing that matters for these kids.
Still on the subject of dancing, though unlike The Next Step above, this an an actual reality TV show.
The success of this show is a little surprising - there is apparently enough appeal in the concept of dancing celebrities that two different networks have screened it.
It was first on 7 from 2004-15, then jumped to Ten for two years from 2019 and has now returned home to 7 since 2021.
Maybe it's because the show provides relatively wholesome viewing in the reality TV genre - an area that has come to be sordid, tacky or absurdly niche (seriously, how long before we get a show called Outback Truckers Whose First Name Starts with a T?).
The darkest it gets on Dancing With the Stars are the comments from the nasty judge - and every reality TV show with a judging panel has to have one.
The show is not my cup of tea but I do have respect for the celebs that risk the potential for embarrassment and give it a crack.
And, for the most part, the celebs are actually people you know. No Instagrammers looking to eke out the final seconds of their 15 minutes of fame here.
The reality of this TV show isn't quite as revealing as the title would suggest, but it still offers a slightly different view of life in the cooking game.
Host Tom Kerridge has been a chef for a number of years, switching over to the world of TV - as it seems more and more chefs do.
He is pretty honest about the rough side of hospitality - perhaps more so than his guests.
For instance, Kerridge is pretty open about the problems he - and by extension others - have with alcohol.
He worked hard in the kitchen and then, when service would finish, he'd hit the bottle hard too.
So much so that he admits if he didn't stop he would have been dead.
All the other reveals - like exactly what everyone does in the kitchen - can't compete with that bombshell.
Still, they provide some interesting info. Before watching this show I didn't realise there's one guy in the kitchen whose job it is to put together all the bits and pieces others have been cooking to make the dish that goes out to the customer.
Every parent knows what it's like to have to sit next to their kid while they watch some show that is wonderful to them but painful to the adult.
And you end up watching the show so often that it becomes burned into your subconscious.
Such is the case with The Next Step, which my daughter - who is now well into her teens - used to watch when she was little.
Looking at this latest episode (from season 10 so the show obviously has some legs) I can see little about this series set in a pretend dance studio has changed.
It is still based heavily around a fake reality TV vibe, where the actors deliver pieces to camera as their character. Sure, it's a show for kids, but this is a really, really lazy way to provide the viewer with information.
Also, there is still the unceasing quest to make "the nationals" - which is some sort of dance competition that forever hangs over their heads.
I swear they mention "the nationals" at least a half-dozen times in every single episode. It's like it is the only thing that matters for these kids.
Still on the subject of dancing, though unlike The Next Step above, this an an actual reality TV show.
The success of this show is a little surprising - there is apparently enough appeal in the concept of dancing celebrities that two different networks have screened it.
It was first on 7 from 2004-15, then jumped to Ten for two years from 2019 and has now returned home to 7 since 2021.
Maybe it's because the show provides relatively wholesome viewing in the reality TV genre - an area that has come to be sordid, tacky or absurdly niche (seriously, how long before we get a show called Outback Truckers Whose First Name Starts with a T?).
The darkest it gets on Dancing With the Stars are the comments from the nasty judge - and every reality TV show with a judging panel has to have one.
The show is not my cup of tea but I do have respect for the celebs that risk the potential for embarrassment and give it a crack.
And, for the most part, the celebs are actually people you know. No Instagrammers looking to eke out the final seconds of their 15 minutes of fame here.
The reality of this TV show isn't quite as revealing as the title would suggest, but it still offers a slightly different view of life in the cooking game.
Host Tom Kerridge has been a chef for a number of years, switching over to the world of TV - as it seems more and more chefs do.
He is pretty honest about the rough side of hospitality - perhaps more so than his guests.
For instance, Kerridge is pretty open about the problems he - and by extension others - have with alcohol.
He worked hard in the kitchen and then, when service would finish, he'd hit the bottle hard too.
So much so that he admits if he didn't stop he would have been dead.
All the other reveals - like exactly what everyone does in the kitchen - can't compete with that bombshell.
Still, they provide some interesting info. Before watching this show I didn't realise there's one guy in the kitchen whose job it is to put together all the bits and pieces others have been cooking to make the dish that goes out to the customer.
Every parent knows what it's like to have to sit next to their kid while they watch some show that is wonderful to them but painful to the adult.
And you end up watching the show so often that it becomes burned into your subconscious.
Such is the case with The Next Step, which my daughter - who is now well into her teens - used to watch when she was little.
Looking at this latest episode (from season 10 so the show obviously has some legs) I can see little about this series set in a pretend dance studio has changed.
It is still based heavily around a fake reality TV vibe, where the actors deliver pieces to camera as their character. Sure, it's a show for kids, but this is a really, really lazy way to provide the viewer with information.
Also, there is still the unceasing quest to make "the nationals" - which is some sort of dance competition that forever hangs over their heads.
I swear they mention "the nationals" at least a half-dozen times in every single episode. It's like it is the only thing that matters for these kids.
Still on the subject of dancing, though unlike The Next Step above, this an an actual reality TV show.
The success of this show is a little surprising - there is apparently enough appeal in the concept of dancing celebrities that two different networks have screened it.
It was first on 7 from 2004-15, then jumped to Ten for two years from 2019 and has now returned home to 7 since 2021.
Maybe it's because the show provides relatively wholesome viewing in the reality TV genre - an area that has come to be sordid, tacky or absurdly niche (seriously, how long before we get a show called Outback Truckers Whose First Name Starts with a T?).
The darkest it gets on Dancing With the Stars are the comments from the nasty judge - and every reality TV show with a judging panel has to have one.
The show is not my cup of tea but I do have respect for the celebs that risk the potential for embarrassment and give it a crack.
And, for the most part, the celebs are actually people you know. No Instagrammers looking to eke out the final seconds of their 15 minutes of fame here.
The reality of this TV show isn't quite as revealing as the title would suggest, but it still offers a slightly different view of life in the cooking game.
Host Tom Kerridge has been a chef for a number of years, switching over to the world of TV - as it seems more and more chefs do.
He is pretty honest about the rough side of hospitality - perhaps more so than his guests.
For instance, Kerridge is pretty open about the problems he - and by extension others - have with alcohol.
He worked hard in the kitchen and then, when service would finish, he'd hit the bottle hard too.
So much so that he admits if he didn't stop he would have been dead.
All the other reveals - like exactly what everyone does in the kitchen - can't compete with that bombshell.
Still, they provide some interesting info. Before watching this show I didn't realise there's one guy in the kitchen whose job it is to put together all the bits and pieces others have been cooking to make the dish that goes out to the customer.
Every parent knows what it's like to have to sit next to their kid while they watch some show that is wonderful to them but painful to the adult.
And you end up watching the show so often that it becomes burned into your subconscious.
Such is the case with The Next Step, which my daughter - who is now well into her teens - used to watch when she was little.
Looking at this latest episode (from season 10 so the show obviously has some legs) I can see little about this series set in a pretend dance studio has changed.
It is still based heavily around a fake reality TV vibe, where the actors deliver pieces to camera as their character. Sure, it's a show for kids, but this is a really, really lazy way to provide the viewer with information.
Also, there is still the unceasing quest to make "the nationals" - which is some sort of dance competition that forever hangs over their heads.
I swear they mention "the nationals" at least a half-dozen times in every single episode. It's like it is the only thing that matters for these kids.
Still on the subject of dancing, though unlike The Next Step above, this an an actual reality TV show.
The success of this show is a little surprising - there is apparently enough appeal in the concept of dancing celebrities that two different networks have screened it.
It was first on 7 from 2004-15, then jumped to Ten for two years from 2019 and has now returned home to 7 since 2021.
Maybe it's because the show provides relatively wholesome viewing in the reality TV genre - an area that has come to be sordid, tacky or absurdly niche (seriously, how long before we get a show called Outback Truckers Whose First Name Starts with a T?).
The darkest it gets on Dancing With the Stars are the comments from the nasty judge - and every reality TV show with a judging panel has to have one.
The show is not my cup of tea but I do have respect for the celebs that risk the potential for embarrassment and give it a crack.
And, for the most part, the celebs are actually people you know. No Instagrammers looking to eke out the final seconds of their 15 minutes of fame here.
The reality of this TV show isn't quite as revealing as the title would suggest, but it still offers a slightly different view of life in the cooking game.
Host Tom Kerridge has been a chef for a number of years, switching over to the world of TV - as it seems more and more chefs do.
He is pretty honest about the rough side of hospitality - perhaps more so than his guests.
For instance, Kerridge is pretty open about the problems he - and by extension others - have with alcohol.
He worked hard in the kitchen and then, when service would finish, he'd hit the bottle hard too.
So much so that he admits if he didn't stop he would have been dead.
All the other reveals - like exactly what everyone does in the kitchen - can't compete with that bombshell.
Still, they provide some interesting info. Before watching this show I didn't realise there's one guy in the kitchen whose job it is to put together all the bits and pieces others have been cooking to make the dish that goes out to the customer.
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Now it could be the most immense story that you've ever seen, and three days later, we're on to something else.' Brace, meanwhile, thinks people are more overwhelmed than ever before by the 'sheer amount of information out there' and this is what leads to the rise in misinformation. 'It's just selective reporting when you blatantly just tell one side of a story,' says Brace. 'That side is not untrue, but it's dangerous to do that, I think. I bump into people in real life regularly who say, 'Did you hear this?' And I'll say, 'But did you hear this?' And it's not that I'm on one side or the other. I just get really annoyed when they have no idea that that's only half the story.' The US, famously, is home to Fox News, which proudly wears its bias on its sleeve. Do either of them think there is that type of biased reporting in Australia? 'We have more of it than we used to,' says Brace. 'I genuinely think that perhaps 10 years ago, we had a really balanced media with very little tolerance for bias. I remember maybe around the Kevin Rudd kind of time – because I'm very politically focused – there started to be some headlines and some things said, and I'd be like, 'Hm, that's interesting reporting.' I just feel like it's grown over the years, where we now have certain outlets that you just know they're one side or the other. And I really don't like that.' Loading Of course, it's not just bias or misinformation that modern broadcast news has to deal with. The fickle beast that is ratings will probably have more of an effect on 10 News+'s future than any story they choose to do. A dramatic drop in ratings was one of the reasons given for The Project's axing, so what happens when, say, four weeks from now, 10 News+ isn't clicking and it's suggested they start chasing more sensational local stories? 'It'll be a collective decision, the stories that we chase for the day,' says Hitchock. 'So that'll be Dan Sutton, who's the executive producer, and Martin White, who's the vice president [of news on Ten]. Those two will be keeping a keen eye on the show, and then Amelia and I, of course, will have heavy input as well. 'But I don't think it'll change the mission statement or the program. Will it change if the ratings are not as expected? I don't know, but I don't think so, because the show has been pitched as a certain way, and we're filling a national show. It can't be hyper local. The answer wouldn't be to go back to hyper local stories, the answer would be just better stories.' And what if it's suggested a comedian would make a perfect addition to the desk? 'We are very funny,' says Brace, laughing. 'No one's realised that Denham and I are hilarious. So we should be fine.'

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