Jill Scott MBE On Racism, Progress, And The Future Of Women's Football
Today, England has made the UEFA Women's EURO 2025 finals, and tonight I'll be fueled with anxiety not only with the hopes of winning but the dread of what will happen to our Black players if we lose.
During this tournament, Jess Carter withdrew from social media after facing online abuse related to her skin colour. A few years earlier, Black players on the men's team endured harsh criticism for losing the tournament. This prompts the question: Why do I support a country that doesn't support me?
Change doesn't happen overnight, and comparing 2025 to 2005, it's very clear to see the leaps we've made in diversity and inclusion, especially in women's football. A lot of the help has come from dedicated fans, as well as brands like Heineken, which have made it their aim to be at the heart of cultural change in football, proving they're genuinely committed to changing the sport for the better, both on and off the pitch.
Speaking to former England player and Euros 2022 champion Jill Scott MBE, we discuss the evolution of the game, the racism still plaguing it, and the future of women's football.
The Women's Euros 2025 has been an entertaining tournament to say the least. What has been your highlight so far?When I heard the record-breaking ticket sales, I think over 600,000 tickets have been sold, I think that just shows how many people are now wanting to come and watch women's football. So I think just being in and around the tournament, and just getting to meet the fans. Women's football now has fans who aren't going away. When I used to play, you would get fans that would just turn up for tournaments, and then it would drop off, but now the women's games have fans that are here through the good times and the bad times. That's definitely been my highlight.
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