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Jack Dorsey says the process of purchasing Twitter was a ‘disaster' for Elon Musk.

Jack Dorsey says the process of purchasing Twitter was a ‘disaster' for Elon Musk.

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Posted Jul 17, 2025 at 3:16 PM UTC Jack Dorsey says the process of purchasing Twitter was a 'disaster' for Elon Musk.
And for Twitter, too, he says in a new podcast with Rabble (aka Evan Henshaw-Plath), who hired Dorsey at Odeo. The specific part starts a little after 28 minutes.
Dorsey has also invested $10 million in a group Rabble is a part of called 'and Other Stuff,' according to TechCrunch . The group is working on 'a common vision for the development of Nostr infrastructure and products.'
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