Andrew Huberman Makes It Clear What He Really Thinks About Joe Rogan
"One of the main reasons why Rogan is the top podcast in the world," Huberman says, "is because he has lots of different kinds of friends—and he can sit down with intellectuals, he can sit down with comics, he can sit down with criminals—he likes the understanding and communication with different kinds of people."
Huberman also praised Rogan's work ethic and ability to connect.
"His life is filled with these people outside of the studio, so he's very comfortable in the presence of anyone. You put anyone in front of him, and he can be genuinely interested in learning from them," Huberman says.
Both Huberman and Segura agreed you can't fake that kind of curiosity.
"Some podcasters, they're not that interested in what other people have to say—so they're not the best interviewers, unless it's someone directly in their genre," Huberman adds.Huberman later shared the clip on X, where fans weighed in on his Rogan take.
"It's what makes him. He's not afraid to talk to anyone and ask hard questions," one X user commented.
One X user pushed back, asking if the Joe Rogan Experience was still the biggest podcast in the world and commenting that numbers seem to have dropped.
Huberman defended his buddy with a comment back: "Rankings reflect acceleration among other things. Rogan is still the most listened to media channel by a HUGE margin."
Huberman has appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience multiple times. Their conversations often dive deep into neuroscience, performance, health, and human behavior—an area both men clearly care about.Andrew Huberman Makes It Clear What He Really Thinks About Joe Rogan first appeared on Men's Fitness on May 23, 2025
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