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2 days ago
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Why Taxing Bitcoin 'Doesn't Make A Ton Of Sense' According To Bill Miller IV
Benzinga and Yahoo Finance LLC may earn commission or revenue on some items through the links below. Miller Value Partners investment chief Bill Miller IV has questioned the government's right to tax Bitcoin. "If you think about why you pay taxes in society, it's to enforce property rights," the son of legendary investor Bill Miller III told Bitcoin educator Natalie Brunell on a "Coin Stories" podcast episode released last week. "And so the government, when you say buy or sell a house, all that recordation tax, all those taxes go towards keeping track of who owns what." Miller said taxing Bitcoin did not feel right because the blockchain handled these administrative tasks. "For them to reach their hand in there, It doesn't make a ton of sense," he said. Don't Miss: Warren Buffett once said, "If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die." Here's , starting today. $100k+ in investable assets? – no cost, no obligation. Miller made these remarks in defense of long-rumored plans of the Trump administration pushing for zero capital gains tax for cryptocurrencies, a move that, if it happened, could put the U.S. on par with cryptocurrency hubs such as Dubai, Singapore and the Bahamas. "Whether or not that ultimately happens ... it is very cool that there's still no wash sale rule on Bitcoin," he said. The wash sale rule prevents investors from claiming tax deductions on artificial losses from securities. It prohibits investors from claiming a loss when they sell a security at a loss and purchase it again within 30 days. The rule does not apply to cryptocurrencies in the U.S. because the IRS classifies cryptocurrencies as property, not securities. This allows cryptocurrency investors to employ tax loss harvesting strategies to reduce tax burdens. Trending: The secret weapon in billionaire investor portfolios that you almost certainly don't own yet. U.S. cryptocurrency investors face capital gains taxes of up to 20% in the status quo. While a zero capital gains policy for cryptocurrencies remains only a rumor in the U.S., there is at least one piece of legislation seeking to lower the tax burdens of cryptocurrency users. Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY) last week introduced legislation to address several cryptocurrency tax concerns in the U.S. For example, the bill aims to prevent the inclusion of transactions below $300 in tax calculations with an annual cap of $5,000 to allow people to engage in small day-to-day transactions like payments without worrying about capital gains. The legislation would also end double taxation on cryptocurrencies received through airdrop, forks, mining and staking by eliminating tax on when the assets are obtained, while maintaining capital gains tax when they are sold."In order to maintain our competitive edge, we must change our tax code to embrace our digital economy, not burden digital asset users," Lummis said in a statement. "We cannot allow our archaic tax policies to stifle American innovation, and my legislation ensures Americans can participate in the digital economy without inadvertent tax violations." According to Miller, tax complications continue to hinder full-on institutional adoption. "As a fund manager, we still have huge impediments to actually buying it [Bitcoin] because there's taxation rules around bad income if we buy ETFs and sell it at the wrong time," Miller told Brunell. "And so that all needs to be worked out. So that's why I continue to say it's still early, just because the taxation rules around it are really interesting." Read Next: Over the last five years, the price of gold has increased by approximately 83% — Investors like Bill O'Reilly and Rudy Giuliani are . Image: Shutterstock This article Why Taxing Bitcoin 'Doesn't Make A Ton Of Sense' According To Bill Miller IV originally appeared on
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2 days ago
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Why Taxing Bitcoin 'Doesn't Make A Ton Of Sense' According To Bill Miller IV
Benzinga and Yahoo Finance LLC may earn commission or revenue on some items through the links below. Miller Value Partners investment chief Bill Miller IV has questioned the government's right to tax Bitcoin. "If you think about why you pay taxes in society, it's to enforce property rights," the son of legendary investor Bill Miller III told Bitcoin educator Natalie Brunell on a "Coin Stories" podcast episode released last week. "And so the government, when you say buy or sell a house, all that recordation tax, all those taxes go towards keeping track of who owns what." Miller said taxing Bitcoin did not feel right because the blockchain handled these administrative tasks. "For them to reach their hand in there, It doesn't make a ton of sense," he said. Don't Miss: Warren Buffett once said, "If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die." Here's , starting today. $100k+ in investable assets? – no cost, no obligation. Miller made these remarks in defense of long-rumored plans of the Trump administration pushing for zero capital gains tax for cryptocurrencies, a move that, if it happened, could put the U.S. on par with cryptocurrency hubs such as Dubai, Singapore and the Bahamas. "Whether or not that ultimately happens ... it is very cool that there's still no wash sale rule on Bitcoin," he said. The wash sale rule prevents investors from claiming tax deductions on artificial losses from securities. It prohibits investors from claiming a loss when they sell a security at a loss and purchase it again within 30 days. The rule does not apply to cryptocurrencies in the U.S. because the IRS classifies cryptocurrencies as property, not securities. This allows cryptocurrency investors to employ tax loss harvesting strategies to reduce tax burdens. Trending: The secret weapon in billionaire investor portfolios that you almost certainly don't own yet. U.S. cryptocurrency investors face capital gains taxes of up to 20% in the status quo. While a zero capital gains policy for cryptocurrencies remains only a rumor in the U.S., there is at least one piece of legislation seeking to lower the tax burdens of cryptocurrency users. Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY) last week introduced legislation to address several cryptocurrency tax concerns in the U.S. For example, the bill aims to prevent the inclusion of transactions below $300 in tax calculations with an annual cap of $5,000 to allow people to engage in small day-to-day transactions like payments without worrying about capital gains. The legislation would also end double taxation on cryptocurrencies received through airdrop, forks, mining and staking by eliminating tax on when the assets are obtained, while maintaining capital gains tax when they are sold."In order to maintain our competitive edge, we must change our tax code to embrace our digital economy, not burden digital asset users," Lummis said in a statement. "We cannot allow our archaic tax policies to stifle American innovation, and my legislation ensures Americans can participate in the digital economy without inadvertent tax violations." According to Miller, tax complications continue to hinder full-on institutional adoption. "As a fund manager, we still have huge impediments to actually buying it [Bitcoin] because there's taxation rules around bad income if we buy ETFs and sell it at the wrong time," Miller told Brunell. "And so that all needs to be worked out. So that's why I continue to say it's still early, just because the taxation rules around it are really interesting." Read Next: Over the last five years, the price of gold has increased by approximately 83% — Investors like Bill O'Reilly and Rudy Giuliani are . Image: Shutterstock This article Why Taxing Bitcoin 'Doesn't Make A Ton Of Sense' According To Bill Miller IV originally appeared on Error while retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error while retrieving data Error while retrieving data Error while retrieving data Error while retrieving data
CNBC
08-05-2025
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Senate fails to advance stablecoin bill
Bill Miller IV, Miller Value Partner CIO and chairman, joins 'Closing Bell' to react to the Senate's failure to advance the stablecoin bill, share his take on Bitcoin surpassing $100K, and more.
