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Business Standard
15-06-2025
- Business
- Business Standard
AI experts divided over Apple's research on large reasoning model accuracy
A recent study by tech giant Apple claiming that the accuracy of frontier large reasoning models (LRMs) declines as task complexity increases, and eventually collapses altogether, has led to differing views among experts in the artificial intelligence (AI) world. The paper titled 'The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity' was published by Apple last week. Apple, in its paper, said it conducted experiments across diverse puzzles which show that such LRMs face a complete accuracy collapse beyond certain complexities. While their reasoning efforts increase with the complexity of a problem till a point, it then declines despite having an adequate token budget. A token budget for large language models (LLM) refers to the practice of setting a limit on the number of tokens an LLM can use for a specific task. The paper is co-authored by Samy Bengio, senior director, AI and ML research at Apple who is also the brother of Yoshua Bengio, often referred to as the godfather of AI. Meanwhile, AI company Anthropic, backed by Amazon, countered Apple's claims in a separate paper, saying that the 'findings primarily reflect experimental design limitations rather than fundamental reasoning failures.' 'Their central finding has significant implications for AI reasoning research. However, our analysis reveals that these apparent failures stem from experimental design choices rather than inherent model limitations,' it said. Mayank Gupta, founder of Swift Anytime, currently building an AI product on stealth, told Business Standard that both sides have equally important points. 'What this tells me is that we're still figuring out how to measure reasoning in LRMs the right way. The models are improving rapidly, but our evaluation tools haven't caught up. We need tools that separate how well an LRM reasons from how well it generates output and that's where the real breakthrough lies,' he said. Gary Marcus, a US academic, who has become a voice of caution on the capabilities of AI models, said in a best case scenario, these models can write python code, supplementing their own weaknesses with outside symbolic code, but even this is not reliable. 'What this means for business and society is that you can't simply drop o3 or Claude into some complex problem and expect it to work reliably,' he wrote in his blog, Marcus on AI. The Apple researchers conducted experiments comparing thinking and non-thinking model pairs across controlled puzzle environments. 'The most interesting regime is the third regime where problem complexity is higher and the performance of both models have collapsed to zero. Results show that while thinking models delay this collapse, they also ultimately encounter the same fundamental limitations as their non-thinking counterparts,' they wrote. Apple's observations in the paper perhaps can explain why the iPhone maker has been slow to embed AI across its products or operating systems, a point on which it was criticised at the Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) last week. This approach is opposite to the ones adopted by Microsoft-backed OpenAI, Meta, and Google, who are spending billions to build more sophisticated frontier models to solve more complex tasks. However, there are other voices too who believe that Apple's paper has its limitations. Ethan Mollick, associate professor at the Wharton School who studies the effects of AI on work, entrepreneurship, and education, mentioned on X that while the limits of reasoning models are useful, it is premature to say that LLMs are hitting a wall.
Yahoo
12-06-2025
- Yahoo
Just Law mentors Rochester students on justice and law system
ROCHESTER, N.Y. (WROC) — Twelve students were selected as the winners of the 2024-2025 JUST LAW essay contest. The Justice, Understanding, Societal, Trust, and Literacy, Attendance and Writing program (JUST LAW) teaches Rochester students from sixth to ninth grade about the US legal system. Students were asked to write a 250-word essay on the topic 'What Justice Means to Me.' Winners had the opportunity to be mentored by members of the Rochester Black Bar Association and court leaders. 'Just to hear about what experiences children have had with law enforcement, with the court systems, I have learned so much,' Monroe County Judge Fatimat Reid said. 'Even as young as 6th graders they are such deep thinkers, they have such opinions about what they believe the court system is like, how they see the future of the court system, so I really see a bright future in these young kids as to what future and true justice means to them.' Selected from over 150 essay submissions, these students also won opportunities for mentorship with court leaders and members of the Rochester Black Bar Association. Copyright 2025 Nexstar Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
The Hindu
08-06-2025
- Entertainment
- The Hindu
How maths helped identify fake paintings and other matters
The American Martin Gardner inspired generations of professionals as well as students like me, who saw that the subject was fun and enjoyed his books on mathematical puzzles. 'Fun' is not an aspect emphasised in our schools; the result is generations who might have enjoyed the subject being turned away for life. I love the popular maths books of George Gamow, and in later years, Ian Stewart, Simon Singh, Paul Hoffman, John Allen Paulos, and the wonderful Marcus du Sautoy, the Oxford professor for the Public Understanding of Science (it is likely that if an Indian university created such a post, its holder would quickly find himself in jail). Du Sautoy has written about the limits to science (What We Cannot Know), the art of the shortcut (Thinking Better), prime numbers (The Music of the Primes), the maths behind games (Around the World in 80 Games), books that I reread often. 'My big thesis,' du Sautoy once said, 'is that although the world looks messy and chaotic, if you translate it into the world of numbers and shapes, patterns emerge and you start to understand why things are the way they are.' Eight decades ago, G.H. Hardy wrote in his classic A Mathematician's Apology, ' A mathematician, like a painter or a poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.' Du Sautoy credits Hardy with stirring his interest in maths in his recent book, Blue Prints: How Mathematics Shapes Creativity. He paints a large canvas, with scientists, architects, musicians, artists, choreographers, writers all of whom use mathematics – consciously or otherwise – in their work. Blueprints are the fundamental mathematical structures that underpin human creativity, he says, and goes on to discuss nine such blueprints from primes to randomness. Leonardo da Vinci, Jackson Pollock, Borges, Escher, Bowie are only a few of the non-mathematicians who appear as we discover patterns in unexpected places. Hardy wrote, 'the mathematician's patterns must be beautiful…beauty is the first test, there is no permanent place in this world for ugly mathematics.' You can see that here. Du Sautoy tells us that Macbeth has a numerical structure based on prime numbers and that the number of words in key scenes is a prime number. This rhythm contributes to the unsettling atmosphere of the play. Mozart's The Magic Flute, says du Sautoy, is 'dripping with maths'. The abstract works of Jackson Pollock which gave the impression of paint thrown recklessly onto a canvas had a deliberate structure too. Pollock always insisted he there was no accident in his work. He painted fractals, geometric patterns that repeat arbitrarily. Interestingly, when some canvases supposedly by Pollock were discovered after his death, they were shown to be fakes because they were not fractals. As students, we are told of the separation between the arts and the sciences; we often carry that idea into adult life. Mathematics, says Marcus du Sautoy, is the bridge that connects this cultural divide.
Time of India
06-06-2025
- Business
- Time of India
India set to attract over ₹8,000 crore investment in energy storage, EV, green hydrogen at IESW 2025
New Delhi: India is poised to attract investments exceeding ₹8,000 crore in the fields of energy storage, electric vehicles (EVs), and green hydrogen at the upcoming 11th edition of India Energy Storage Week (IESW) 2025, scheduled from July 8 to 10 in New Delhi. Organised by the India Energy Storage Alliance (IESA), the event will facilitate new business deals, foreign collaborations, and the signing of Memorandums of Understanding (MoUs) aimed at strengthening India's position as a global manufacturing hub for advanced clean energy technologies. Delegations from countries such as Australia, Germany, France, the UK, Finland, Canada, the USA, Israel, and Korea are expected to participate. " India Energy Storage Week 2025 is poised to be a game-changer for India's energy storage sector. We anticipate a remarkable surge in investments, and we believe that this 11th edition of IESW will serve as a crucial milestone, significantly transforming the landscape of the country's energy storage, electric vehicle, and green hydrogen industries," said Vinayak Walimbe, Managing Director of Customized Energy Solutions. The event, hosted at the Yashobhoomi Convention and Expo Centre, will feature participation from more than 1,000 companies and over 150 key partners and exhibitors. Gujarat, Odisha, Telangana, and Chhattisgarh are on board as state partners, with support from various Union Ministries. As per government data released in 2023, more than 6,600 cleantech startups are currently operating in 450 districts across 34 states and Union Territories. IESA has projected that Indian battery and mobility startups are likely to attract investments worth USD 500 million within a year. "IESW 2025 is not just an event; it is a pivotal moment for the energy storage sector in India. We have a dedicated day each for stationary storage, green hydrogen, e-mobility and manufacturing in the same. This year, we will witness the convergence of world-class innovations and foreign investments that will drive our industry forward," said Debmalya Sen, President of IESA. The conference will serve as a launchpad for factory and gigafactory announcements, showcasing advancements in battery technologies such as solid-state batteries, lithium-sulfur, sodium-ion, and thermal storage systems. The event aims to enhance domestic manufacturing capabilities and establish a secure supply chain across energy storage and clean technology sectors.
Time of India
06-06-2025
- Business
- Time of India
India set to attract over ₹8,000 crore investment in energy storage, EV, green hydrogen at IESW 2025
New Delhi: India is poised to attract investments exceeding ₹8,000 crore in the fields of energy storage, electric vehicles (EVs), and green hydrogen at the upcoming 11th edition of India Energy Storage Week (IESW) 2025, scheduled from July 8 to 10 in New Delhi. Organised by the India Energy Storage Alliance (IESA), the event will facilitate new business deals, foreign collaborations, and the signing of Memorandums of Understanding (MoUs) aimed at strengthening India's position as a global manufacturing hub for advanced clean energy technologies. Delegations from countries such as Australia, Germany, France, the UK, Finland, Canada, the USA, Israel, and Korea are expected to participate. " India Energy Storage Week 2025 is poised to be a game-changer for India's energy storage sector. We anticipate a remarkable surge in investments, and we believe that this 11th edition of IESW will serve as a crucial milestone, significantly transforming the landscape of the country's energy storage, electric vehicle, and green hydrogen industries," said Vinayak Walimbe, Managing Director of Customized Energy Solutions. The event, hosted at the Yashobhoomi Convention and Expo Centre, will feature participation from more than 1,000 companies and over 150 key partners and exhibitors. Gujarat, Odisha, Telangana, and Chhattisgarh are on board as state partners, with support from various Union Ministries. As per government data released in 2023, more than 6,600 cleantech startups are currently operating in 450 districts across 34 states and Union Territories. IESA has projected that Indian battery and mobility startups are likely to attract investments worth USD 500 million within a year. "IESW 2025 is not just an event; it is a pivotal moment for the energy storage sector in India. We have a dedicated day each for stationary storage, green hydrogen, e-mobility and manufacturing in the same. This year, we will witness the convergence of world-class innovations and foreign investments that will drive our industry forward," said Debmalya Sen, President of IESA. The conference will serve as a launchpad for factory and gigafactory announcements, showcasing advancements in battery technologies such as solid-state batteries, lithium-sulfur, sodium-ion, and thermal storage systems. The event aims to enhance domestic manufacturing capabilities and establish a secure supply chain across energy storage and clean technology sectors.
