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Indian Express
26-06-2025
- General
- Indian Express
Ahmedabad Air India Crash: Govt confirms ongoing ‘data extraction' from black boxes
The government confirmed Thursday that the data extraction process from the black boxes of the Air India aircraft that crashed in Ahmedabad on June 12 is currently underway, news agency PTI reported. A multi-disciplinary team, led by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) chief, is probing the plane crash. According to the officials, analysis of the Cockpit Voice Recorder and Flight Data Recorder is being conducted as part of the investigation. 'The Crash Protection Module (CPM) from the front black box was safely retrieved, and on 25 June, 2025, the memory module was successfully accessed and its data downloaded at the AAIB Lab,' the statement said. 'These efforts aim to reconstruct the sequence of events leading to the accident and identify contributing factors to enhance aviation safety and prevent future occurrences,' the statement added. The Civil Aviation Ministry in a statement said: 'The team, constituted as per international protocol, is led by DG AAIB, and includes an aviation medicine specialist, an ATC officer, and representatives from National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) which is government investigative agency from the state of manufacture and design, (USA), as required for such investigations.' 'Following the unfortunate accident involving Air India Flight AI-171, the AAIB promptly initiated an investigation and constituted a multidisciplinary team on 13 June 2025, in line with prescribed norms,' the ministry added. The ill-fated Air India's Boeing 787-8 aircraft was en route to London Gatwick crashed into a medical hostel complex soon after takeoff from Ahmedabad, killing over 270 people, including 241 people who were onboard the plane.
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Business Standard
17-06-2025
- Politics
- Business Standard
Air India plane crash: Centre's probe panel to submit report in 3 months
A high-level multi-disciplinary committee formed by the Centre to investigate the Ahmedabad Air India plane crash will submit its report within three months, Union minister Murlidhar Mohol said on Tuesday. The Air India operates 34 Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft. The safety checks of 12 of them have been done and no issue has been found so far, the Minister of State for Civil Aviation told reporters here. He also expressed hope that an analysis of the plane's black box data will provide clues about the cause of the crash. The Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft (AI171) with 230 passengers and 12 crew members crashed into the complex of a medical college moments after taking off from the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport in Ahmedabad on June 12. One person survived the crash, while 241 on board and 29 on the ground were killed, as per officials. The Centre on Saturday set up a high-level multi-disciplinary panel to ascertain the "root cause" of the crash of the London-bound Air India plane in Ahmedabad and assess any contributing factors including mechanical failure, human error and regulatory compliances. The panel headed by Union Home Secretary Govind Mohan will not be a substitute to other probes being conducted by relevant organisations, the Civil Aviation Ministry had said. Asked about the probe status, Mohol said, "The investigation is underway and several small details will be investigated. Many things will come to light after downloading the 'black box'. A committee has been appointed under the chairmanship of the Union Home Secretary to investigate the matter. The report will be submitted within three months." The doomed aircraft's black box--which includes the Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder--has already been recovered and may hold vital clues to understanding what led to the disaster. Mohol said, "The Air India operates a total of 34 Dreamliner aircraft. Orders have been given to inspect and investigate all the 34 carriers. Of them, 10 to 12 carriers have been inspected so far and no issue has been found in them yet." The minister also said that hospital authorities in Ahmedabad have collected 270 DNA samples and 70 to 80 bodies have been handed over to their relatives. Probe agencies were looking into all possible causes for the crash, including loss of thrust in both engines of the aircraft, multiple bird strikes, or a potential wing flap issue. The high-level panel, chaired by Union Home Secretary Govind Mohan, has deliberated on various possibilities that could have led to the Ahmedabad crash at its first meeting in Delhi, sources said on Monday. The panel heard the opinion of various stake-holders about the possible causes and deliberated on steps to be taken to check future occurrence of such accidents by formulating Standard Operating Procedures(SOPs). Since a separate investigation is also being carried out by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB), which is looking into the technical aspects of the crash, the panel discussed about the possible causes and lesson to be taken from it, the sources said. The United States' National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has also launched a parallel probe into the crash, drawing several international experts to the accident site. The NTSB is conducting a parallel probe under international protocols, as the aircraft is American-made, an official release earlier said. It is an independent federal agency of the US tasked with investigating every civil aviation accident. They determine the probable causes of accidents and events and investigate and issue safety recommendations aimed at preventing future occurrences. (Only the headline and picture of this report may have been reworked by the Business Standard staff; the rest of the content is auto-generated from a syndicated feed.)
Time of India
15-06-2025
- General
- Time of India
Aviation expert mentions possible reasons for the Ahmedabad crash, says Boeing 787 Dreamliner is reliable
Alok Singh, retired Captain and aviation expert, attributed the Air India plane crash, which claimed the lived of 241 people, attributed the tragic incident to loss of thrust on both engines, bird strike, pilot error, or technical fault. Alok Singh told ANI, "This is a very tragic incident. It will be marked as Black Day in world aviation industry. This is the rarest of rare incident. From the video it is clear that the aircraft stopped producing lift. The reason for this could be loss of thrust on both engines which could have happened due to fuel starvation, engine could have stopped getting fuel. A bird strike is also a possibility. This can also be a pilot error. It can also be a technical fault." Singh said the black box, which was found on Friday, would be crucial. It records crucial data and cockpit conversations. He explained that the data from the black box would be analysed to determine the exact cause of the crash. by Taboola by Taboola Sponsored Links Sponsored Links Promoted Links Promoted Links You May Like Bank Owned Properties For Sale In Tan Thoi Hoa (Prices May Surprise You) Foreclosed Homes | Search ads Search Now Undo "The black box is so strong that it can withstand an explosion also. Black box has two components one is the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) all the communications in the cockpit can be recorded and the second is the Digital Flight Data Recorder (DFTR). In DFTR in which all the parameters of the aircraft are recorded. First, the data will be derived from the black box, and then it will be analysed. It just provides the data. Then, investigative agencies will analyse the data and come to conclusion," he said. Meanwhile, Singh praised the reliability of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, noting that this is the first major incident involving the aircraft. He talked about the aircraft's good safety record, with only minor issues reported due to aging fleet. Live Events "In the last 11 to 12 years, it has been in service and no such incident took place. Recently, there were reports that as the fleet is ageing, some minor issues are arising," he said. Further, Singh praised the the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) and the Union Civil Aviation Minister Ram Mohan Naidu for their surveillance initiatives, ensuring that all parameters of the aircraft are checked twice to guarantee passenger safety. He said that the aviation industry learns from each accident and takes steps to prevent similar incidents in the future. He also explained the significance of the Mayday call, an international distress signal that prioritises emergency landings. "All the parameters of the aircraft before releasing to service, they want to make sure that the passengers are safe and the aircraft is safe. All the systems are checked twice so that such incident is not repeated. This is a white body aircraft and used on long-haul routes. It is called a workhorse for Air India. So far, technical glitches have been very few in it," he further said. "Whenever any accident happens in the aviation industry, we learn from it. We try to see that the mistake is not repeated. When we are announcing Mayday we are declaring emergency and help is required. ATC gives priority to such flights for landing or air space. In US and Europe aircraft are landed properly after mayday call," he added. Singh said that there are more than 200 computers monitoring a single aircraft. "Whatever has happened took place after the take off was initiated. It happened at very less height. The total flight was total 57 seconds and stalled after 26 second. The pilot had no option. The flight crashed into the nearest building," he added. On Thursday, the Air India flight AI171 was en route to London from Ahmedabad when it crashed shortly after takeoff from the airport, ramming into a doctors' hostel of BJ Medical College in Gujarat's Ahmedabad. There were 242 people on board the Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, including 230 passengers and 12 crew members. Of the passengers, 241 died in the crash. The lone survivor, identified as Vishwashkumar Ramesh, a British national of Indian origin, sustained injuries and is undergoing treatment.
Mint
14-06-2025
- General
- Mint
Explained: What black box holds inside and what can it reveal about Air India plane crash?
The flight data recorder from the crashed Air India flight was recovered on Friday, which is expected to provide a critical understanding of the cause of the plane crash that claimed the lives of 241 passengers and several people on the ground. The London-bound Boeing 787 crashed into a medical college hostel in a residential area of Gujarat's Ahmedabad shortly after takeoff on Thursday, June 12. The plane's digital flight data recorder or black box was recovered from a rooftop near the crash site, and the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau said that it had begun its work with 'full force.' Meanwhile, Civil Aviation Minister Ram Mohan Naidu said in a post on X that the black box recovery marks an 'important step forward in the investigation'. The Flight Data Recorder (Black Box) has been recovered within 28 hours from the accident site in Ahmedabad by AAIB. This marks an important step forward in the investigation. This will significantly aid the enquiry into the incident, Naidu added. A black box in aviation refers to two critical flight recording devices on an aircraft: Flight Data Recorder (FDR) and Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR). Flight Data Recorder – This device records important flight parameters like speed, altitude, engine performance, heading, and flight control movements. Cockpit Voice Recorder – This records audio from the cockpit, including conversations between pilots, alarms, and ambient sounds. In the investigation of the Ahmedabad crash, the black box will play a key role in identifying whether the disaster resulted from a mechanical malfunction, engine failure, bird strike, onboard fire, or human error. The black box will offer comprehensive information about the crew's MAYDAY transmission, any system-generated alerts, and their efforts to regain control in the critical seconds following takeoff. Furthermore, the device will reveal information about the engine and control settings, in addition to what the voice recorder will show about the cockpit conversations, Paul Fromme, a mechanical engineer with the UK-based Institution of Mechanical Engineers said in a statement, as reported by the Associated Press. The DGCA said its enhanced inspection will include checks of various systems and a review of take-off parameters of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft of Air India owned by the Tata Group. Both FDR and CVR devices always collect and save data during a flight. The FDR logs technical and performance metrics, while the CVR records sound inside the cockpit, according to reports. In the event of an accident, this stored data is retrieved and analysed to understand what was happening mechanically and among the crew in the moments leading up to the crash. Aviation safety consultant Jeff Guzzetti, a former crash investigator for both the US National Transportation Safety Board and Federal Aviation Administration, said investigators should be able to answer some important questions about what caused the crash as soon as next week as long as the flight data recorder is in good shape. Investigators likely are looking at whether wing flaps were set correctly, whether the engine lost power, whether alarms were going off inside the cockpit and whether the plane's crew correctly inputted information about the hot temperature outside and the weight of the fuel and passengers, Guzzetti said, as reported by AP. Mistakes in the data could result in the wing flaps being set incorrectly, he said. (With inputs from agencies)
Time of India
13-06-2025
- Time of India
Ahmedabad Air India tragedy: Gujarat ATS recover Digital Video Recorder (DVR) from crash site; here's how it is different from black box
NEW DELHI: Gujarat Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) officers on Friday recovered a Digital Video Recorder (DVR) from the debris of the Air India Dreamliner that crashed shortly after take-off from Ahmedabad airport, killing dozens. Confirming the recovery, an ATS personnel at the crash site said, 'It's a DVR, which we have recovered from the debris. The FSL (Forensic Science Laboratory) team will come here soon.' Is DVR and Black Box same? DVR is not the same as a black box, which typically comprises two key aviation components: the Flight Data Recorder (FDR) and the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR). While a DVR is commonly used in homes, offices, or public surveillance systems to store CCTV footage, a black box is a highly durable, crash-survivable device that records flight parameters and cockpit audio — vital for understanding the cause of an air crash. The DVR could help track passenger boarding or the last visual recordings before the flight took off. The black box, meanwhile, remains the most critical piece of equipment in aviation crash probes. It records data like altitude, engine performance, and pilot conversation. As investigators continue combing through wreckage strewn across residential areas and parts of BJ Medical College's campus, the DVR could offer answers but the real questions are still locked inside the missing black box. Follow more information on Air India plane crash in Ahmedabad here . Get real-time live updates on rescue operations and check full list of passengers onboard AI 171 .
