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Considering an open relationship? Don't read this Reddit forum
Considering an open relationship? Don't read this Reddit forum

The Guardian

time3 days ago

  • Politics
  • The Guardian

Considering an open relationship? Don't read this Reddit forum

It all started with Elon Musk's black eye. In May, the President's on-again-off-again best friend appeared in the Oval Office visibly bruised. He laughed it off and said his five-year-old child had done it. The internet had other ideas. Soon, a round of extremely unconfirmed speculation began about an alleged – and I cannot stress the word 'alleged' enough – throuple: Musk; Trump's deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, and his wife, political adviser Katie Miller. The Democrats even weighed in with a post of an empty hotel room chair, a notorious signpost of cuckoldry. I'm not alone in finding perverse joy in other people's relationship dramas. Reddit's crowdsourced advice sections, particularly r/relationships and r/amitheasshole, have long been staples of viral posts. They're portable soap operas – or in some cases, sitcoms – with the added spice that they're (probably, sometimes, maybe) real. The Musk-Miller saga led me to r/openmarriageregret, a subreddit mining and reposting threads from other relationship and polyamory boards for cautionary tales of open relationships gone wrong. Maintaining a relationship with another human being contorts us into new ugly shapes. Maintaining a relationship with two or more other human beings can break us apart. The page opens with a sober preamble: 'Life is about choices. Some we regret, some we are proud of – and some will haunt us for ever.' It's all very 'don't try this at home'. Sure. This is for educational purposes. Many posts are as you'd imagine: a man pressures his wife into an open relationship and is then shocked to discover that she's a sought-after 10 and he's sexual kryptonite. But things can get so much worse. One user asks if they're in the wrong 'for leaving our honeymoon because my husband and his boyfriend kept leaving me and my girlfriend out'. Another writes of a very contemporary woe: 'My husband wants to open our marriage for his AI girlfriend and says it's the next step in their relationship.' Her partner has been acting distant lately, she says, spending a lot of time on the phone, smiling to himself, hiding away in the home office. Then he says he has something to tell her. Is he having an affair? No. It's far worse. The user continues: 'He told me he wants to take the next step with her.' This involves introducing the AI to their children. 'How do I stay married to someone who's half emotionally checked out of our life and into a fucking chatbot?' In the comments, several people share their experience of male partners becoming enamoured of a simulation of a woman who doesn't talk back and is programmed to think everything he says is brilliant. The voyeurism of the group is twofold: of course the relationship dramas are engaging. But so are the way people discuss these real scenarios. The commenters bring their own baggage and bias, perhaps not realising they're part of the drama themselves. The group's diehards subscribe to one central thesis: that those opening their relationships want novelty and attention, and the person who provides this is functionally irrelevant. The thesis, of course, doesn't necessarily hold water. As much as non-monogamy continues to rise, we've been gawking at successful open arrangements for decades. Not that it matters to the group's frequenters, who forge forward in their cynicism, however misinformed. 'I know absolutely no one in an open relationship or marriage,' says one user, who is in the top 1% of commenters in the group. I know, by my slightly unsettling investment in the group, that I'm complicit. But I can't look away. Who are these commenters? Who hurt them? Why are they so devoted to other people's romantic dramas, their crumbling marriages? Why am I? The emotional zing of gossip is strong. Even the usually humourless Democrats are in on it. So, putting ill will to one side: I truly hope the alleged Musk-Miller polycule patch things up. Alleged! I mean alleged! They're made for each other.

Considering an open relationship? Don't read this Reddit forum
Considering an open relationship? Don't read this Reddit forum

The Guardian

time3 days ago

  • Politics
  • The Guardian

Considering an open relationship? Don't read this Reddit forum

It all started with Elon Musk's black eye. In May, the President's on-again-off-again best friend appeared in the Oval Office visibly bruised. He laughed it off and said his five-year-old child had done it. The internet had other ideas. Soon, a round of extremely unconfirmed speculation began about an alleged – and I cannot stress the word 'alleged' enough – throuple: Musk; Trump's deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, and his wife, political adviser Katie Miller. The Democrats even weighed in with a post of an empty hotel room chair, a notorious signpost of cuckoldry. I'm not alone in finding perverse joy in other people's relationship dramas. Reddit's crowdsourced advice sections, particularly r/relationships and r/amitheasshole, have long been staples of viral posts. They're portable soap operas – or in some cases, sitcoms – with the added spice that they're (probably, sometimes, maybe) real. The Musk-Miller saga led me to r/openmarriageregret, a subreddit mining and reposting threads from other relationship and polyamory boards for cautionary tales of open relationships gone wrong. Maintaining a relationship with another human being contorts us into new ugly shapes. Maintaining a relationship with two or more other human beings can break us apart. The page opens with a sober preamble: 'Life is about choices. Some we regret, some we are proud of – and some will haunt us for ever.' It's all very 'don't try this at home'. Sure. This is for educational purposes. Many posts are as you'd imagine: a man pressures his wife into an open relationship and is then shocked to discover that she's a sought-after 10 and he's sexual kryptonite. But things can get so much worse. One user asks if they're in the wrong 'for leaving our honeymoon because my husband and his boyfriend kept leaving me and my girlfriend out'. Another writes of a very contemporary woe: 'My husband wants to open our marriage for his AI girlfriend and says it's the next step in their relationship.' Her partner has been acting distant lately, she says, spending a lot of time on the phone, smiling to himself, hiding away in the home office. Then he says he has something to tell her. Is he having an affair? No. It's far worse. The user continues: 'He told me he wants to take the next step with her.' This involves introducing the AI to their children. 'How do I stay married to someone who's half emotionally checked out of our life and into a fucking chatbot?' In the comments, several people share their experience of male partners becoming enamoured of a simulation of a woman who doesn't talk back and is programmed to think everything he says is brilliant. The voyeurism of the group is twofold: of course the relationship dramas are engaging. But so are the way people discuss these real scenarios. The commenters bring their own baggage and bias, perhaps not realising they're part of the drama themselves. The group's diehards subscribe to one central thesis: that those opening their relationships want novelty and attention, and the person who provides this is functionally irrelevant. The thesis, of course, doesn't necessarily hold water. As much as non-monogamy continues to rise, we've been gawking at successful open arrangements for decades. Not that it matters to the group's frequenters, who forge forward in their cynicism, however misinformed. 'I know absolutely no one in an open relationship or marriage,' says one user, who is in the top 1% of commenters in the group. I know, by my slightly unsettling investment in the group, that I'm complicit. But I can't look away. Who are these commenters? Who hurt them? Why are they so devoted to other people's romantic dramas, their crumbling marriages? Why am I? The emotional zing of gossip is strong. Even the usually humourless Democrats are in on it. So, putting ill will to one side: I truly hope the alleged Musk-Miller polycule patch things up. Alleged! I mean alleged! They're made for each other.

Love Island OG couple hit the rocks after dramatic Casa recoupling as villa girl issues ultimatum
Love Island OG couple hit the rocks after dramatic Casa recoupling as villa girl issues ultimatum

The Sun

time10-07-2025

  • Entertainment
  • The Sun

Love Island OG couple hit the rocks after dramatic Casa recoupling as villa girl issues ultimatum

LOVE Island's Dejon and Meg face big relationship issues as Andrada spills the tea on her connection with the villa hunk. Last night Meg was left fuming after she found out Dejon had grown close to nail technician Andrada during Casa Amor. 3 3 3 Still reeling from the fallout of the recoupling, tonight Andrada pulls Meg for a chat to discuss Dejon's behaviour in the other villa. Andrada tells Meg: 'We've got a really good connection and everyone saw it… It's stronger than what he has with you, it's very obvious.' Making it clear about her intentions now she's in the villa, she insists: 'I will still chat to him.' While Meg says of her Casa Amor experience: 'From my side, no one compared to D...' Andrada continues: 'He said he hasn't had a connection with any of the other bombshells like he's had with me. "He said I'm the best bombshell in there for him.' After hearing exactly what Dejon has been up to, Meg issues him with an ultimatum. She takes him to the terrace and says: "If you were genuinely all for me, as soon as you walked through the door after Casa, you'd want to close things off. "Obviously I feel a certain way about you but you don't feel it back.' She continues: 'You literally need to decide today. I'm not going to sit here and be in a triangle. "My bottle says Meg, not mug.' But what will Dejon have to say in response to Meg's proposition? Love Island 2025 - Casa Amor girls WHO are the latest bombshells heading into the spin-off villa? The Sun exclusively reported the identities of the six beauties heading into the ITV2 spin-off villa, after it was teased during last week's episode. The Love Island newbies were seen strolling into the compound clad in swimwear - with one already having a connection to Harry. On the show's official Instagram page it teased: "Amor the merrier… who's ready for Casa Amor?" and now we can report the full line-up. Lauren Wood, 26, Emma Munro, 30 Lucy Quinn, 21 Yasmin Broom, 26 Andrada Pop, 27 Rheo Parnell, 26

Suspicious girlfriend sets a trap to catch her boyfriend cheating - and you won't believe his astonishing excuse when she busts him
Suspicious girlfriend sets a trap to catch her boyfriend cheating - and you won't believe his astonishing excuse when she busts him

Daily Mail​

time07-07-2025

  • Daily Mail​

Suspicious girlfriend sets a trap to catch her boyfriend cheating - and you won't believe his astonishing excuse when she busts him

An Aussie woman has caught her partner red-handed after she found him on a dating app and arranged to meet him under a fake profile. Stacey Eden, from Sydney, explained in a TikTok video that a Good Samaritan had let her know that her partner was using a dating app. Stacey then made a profile on the app and managed to track down her boyfriend. 'I liked his photo. He initiated the conversation with the fake profile - he messaged her,' she said. 'He sent her a name with the wrong spelling, he said he doesn't have any social media, he doesn't use it. 'He asked for her phone number, he then gave his phone number. He then asked her to message him on WhatsApp, which apparently he only uses for work. 'Then he sent her pictures of himself. Then she sent pictures of herself, and he sent more pictures of himself in his underwear.' Stacey said her partner agreed to meet up with the fake account. 'Then he decided, I'm going to drive two hours away and go and see this girl.' After a day's work, Stacey drove to the meeting location and filmed herself crouching behind a wall as she waited for her partner to arrive. 'Am I crazy? Yeah, I am. But these are the lengths I'll go to, to show someone that they're not to f*** with me' she confided. '...I have never felt this much adrenaline in my entire life.' Meanwhile, the boyfriend messaged the 'real' Stacey to say goodnight, telling her, 'I'm going to sleep baby, I'm getting tired... have a good shift at work'. 'He thinks I'm working a double shift - he thinks I'm working overnight while he's out galivanting with women.' Shortly afterwards he parked near Stacey's hiding spot. She had given him a fake address, and she filmed him wandering up and down the road searching in vain for it. 'I'm going to go confront him,' she said finally. She could then be heard asking, 'what are you doing?' while her partner responded, 'I knew it was you'. The man claimed he had made the trip to meet up with the fake profile in an effort to prove it was Stacey. 'This can be our final goodbye,' she concluded after a tense back and forth. 'Everyone keeps saying it doesn't count because I set him up,' Stacey later reflected. 'Did I though? Did I really set him up or did I just give him an opportunity to make a choice? Because it seems to me that he made his choice. 'And he keeps saying "but I knew it was you, I only went because I knew it was you." 'Okay, so what about all the other things you did? That doesn't count as cheating? Because in my books it counts as cheating.' Stacey also revealed this was the second time she had caught her boyfriend cheating on her. 'I tried to show him how much I loved him - I tried to show him that he was deserving of that love even after he cheated on me because I know what he did came from a place of self hatred,' she explained. 'It came from a place of self-sabotage because he did not believe he was worthy of that love.

Ferne McCann's jailed acid attacker ex dumped by Love Island beauty after eight month romance
Ferne McCann's jailed acid attacker ex dumped by Love Island beauty after eight month romance

The Sun

time03-07-2025

  • Entertainment
  • The Sun

Ferne McCann's jailed acid attacker ex dumped by Love Island beauty after eight month romance

FERNE McCann's jailed acid attacker ex Arthur Collins has been dumped by ex-Love Island beauty Amelia Peters. 5 5 He was said to have wooed her from behind bars - sending Amelia bouquets of flowers and her visiting him in prison regularly. But a friend of the former reality star has told The Sun: "Amelia has called off her romance with Arthur. "Some members of her family only found out about her romance after reading about it in the Sun and urged her to dump him especially after seeing the pictures of him injecting himself with steroids from behind bars." But concerned family members are said to be worried that it's only a matter of time before she gives Collins a second chance. "They've told Amelia he's 'bad news' and she shouldn't put her life on hold for him," they continued. "They are worried Collins has a hold over her. "Amelia has told her family she has dumped him for good but her friends believe it won't be long before she starts seeing him again because of the hold he has over her." The Sun has reached out to Amelia's rep for comment. Just last week The Sun revealed shamed acid attacker Collins' new romance. A source said at the time: 'They talk all the time — despite the fact he's in jail. " He's got a phone they speak on and he's sent her flowers a number of times.' Possessing a phone in jail is an offence and can lead to a loss of privileges or a longer sentence. Collins got an extra eight months in 2018 for smuggling a phone into jail. His fresh antics emerged after The Sun on Sunday revealed that scheming lag Collins had a 'steroid' injected into his bottom in his cell. He was dating Towie's Ferne McCann in 2017 when he threw acid in the Mangle E8 club in Dalston, East London — leaving 16 people with chemical burns. Collins planned to marry Annie Bull in 2022 after romancing her from his cell. He proposed during a visit, after which she had his name tattooed under her boobs. Amelia, on Love Island in 2017, had fallen under his spell. On his birthday last month, she posted on her Instagram an image of red roses with the letter 'A' above them. She wrote: 'Happy birthday to the most handsome pain in the arse, Love you x.' Our source went on: ' Amelia has made no secret of her relationship with Arthur and has told her friends she's mad about him and thinks he's the one. 'She says she thinks Arthur is a changed man. "Some of her mates are worried about her getting involved with him but Amelia won't listen.' Another source, close to Amelia, tried to downplay talk of a romance and said: 'She's visited Arthur but he is a family friend.' Meanwhile, Collins has been transferred from The Mount Prison in Herts — where the injection footage was taken — amid fears he was scheming to import drugs using drones. An anti-corruption team has found illicit items at his new home, HMP Buckley Hall, near Rochdale. A source said: 'He's in trouble constantly and doesn't seem to care. "He goes around like the big 'I am' as if he rules the roost.' 5

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