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Business Standard
6 days ago
- Business Standard
Air India junior pilot asked captain why he turned off fuel switches: WSJ
A cockpit voice recording of doomed Air India Flight 171 indicates the younger co-pilot asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane's fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter. The information, from people who asked not to be identified because they're not authorized to speak publicly, reveals for the first time who said what in the flight deck. The exchange was first mentioned in last week's preliminary report from India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau probing the June 12 crash in the western city of Ahmedabad, but without identifying the speakers. The report had shown two fuel switches in the cockpit were moved to a cut-off position, causing the Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner to lose lift and crash 32 seconds after takeoff. The other pilot had denied turning off the switches, according to the AAIB, which had extracted data from the cockpit voice recorder. Aviation experts had speculated that it was first officer Clive Kunder who had posed the question to captain Sumeet Sabharwal given Kunder was the pilot flying and would have had his hands full — one on the yoke commanding the widebody into the skies, and the other on the throttle controlling the aircraft's speed. The Wall Street Journal previously reported who said what in the exchange. The initial investigation showed that the fuel-control switches were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground. How and why the switches came to be turned off — cutting the flow of fuel to the engines — are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane's systems or human action — deliberate or inadvertent. The two switches sit at the lower end of the aircraft's center console between the two pilot seats and near the thrust levers, and they're designed in a way to prevent unintended movement. There are metal guards on either side of the mushroom-shaped knobs, and the switches themselves have a spring-loaded locking mechanism, requiring a pull-up motion to change the position. Once moved, a tab at their base locks them in position. While the new details add fresh perspective on the confusion in the cockpit during the 32 seconds between takeoff and crash, investigators still haven't drawn any definitive conclusions. In a statement on Thursday, the AAIB cautioned not to jump to premature conclusions about what happened, and that a final report will include root causes and recommendations. 'At this stage, it is too early to reach to any definite conclusions,' the agency said. 'The investigation by AAIB is still not complete.' More to Discern The cockpit recording could be even more revelatory, according to Michael Daniel, a retired Federal Aviation Administration inspector and accident investigator. 'There are multiple microphones around the cockpit including their headsets,' said Daniel. The mic positions mean it's possible that it captured and discerned not just the sound of the fuel switches being turned off, but the direction from which it came in the cockpit — offering investigators definitive information as to who cut off fuel supply to the planes engines, he said. Earlier this week, India's civil aviation authority ordered an inspection of cockpit fuel switches on Boeing 737 and 787 aircraft operating in the country in an effort to ascertain whether the crash was caused by equipment failure. Aviation psychologists and medical specialists are also involved in the investigation — a typical practice across the aviation industry — to probe the role of the pilots in the crash. The first officer expressed surprise that the fuel switches were off and then panicked, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with US officials' early assessment of evidence. The captain seemed to remain calm, according to the report. The Airline Pilots' Association of India has pushed back on human action as the cause. The US National Transportation Safety Board, which is assisting on the investigation, referred questions to the Indian authorities. Boeing also referred questions to the AAIB. Air India and GE Aerospace, which manufactured the engines, declined to comment. Air India Chief Executive Officer Campbell Wilson said in a memo to employees on Monday, viewed by Bloomberg News, that the report identified no cause and didn't make any recommendations. 'I urge everyone to avoid drawing premature conclusions as the investigation is far from over,' he said.


Malaysian Reserve
7 days ago
- General
- Malaysian Reserve
Air India junior pilot asked captain why he turned off fuel switches
A COCKPIT voice recording of doomed Air India Flight 171 indicates the younger co-pilot asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane's fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter. The information, from people who asked not to be identified because they're not authorized to speak publicly, reveals for the first time who said what in the flight deck. The exchange was first mentioned in last week's preliminary report from India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau probing the June 12 crash in the western city of Ahmedabad, but without identifying the speakers. The report had shown two fuel switches in the cockpit were moved to a cut-off position, causing the Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner to lose lift and crash 32 seconds after takeoff. The other pilot had denied turning off the switches, according to the AAIB, which had extracted data from the cockpit voice recorder. Aviation experts had speculated that it was first officer Clive Kunder who had posed the question to captain Sumeet Sabharwal given Kunder was the pilot flying and would have had his hands full — one on the yoke commanding the widebody into the skies, and the other on the throttle controlling the aircraft's speed. The Wall Street Journal previously reported who said what in the exchange. The initial investigation showed that the fuel-control switches were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground. How and why the switches came to be turned off — cutting the flow of fuel to the engines — are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane's systems or human error. And while the new details add fresh perspective on the confusion in the cockpit during the 32 seconds between takeoff and crash, investigators still haven't drawn any definitive conclusions. The cockpit recording could be even more revelatory, according to Michael Daniel, a retired Federal Aviation Administration inspector and accident investigator. 'There are multiple microphones around the cockpit including their headsets,' said Daniel. The mic positions mean it's possible that it captured and discerned not just the sound of the fuel switches being turned off, but the direction from which it came in the cockpit — offering investigators definitive information as to who cut off fuel supply to the planes engines, he said. Earlier this week, India's civil aviation authority ordered an inspection of cockpit fuel switches on Boeing 737 and 787 aircraft operating in the country in an effort to ascertain whether the crash was caused by equipment failure. Aviation psychologists and medical specialists are also involved in the investigation — a typical practice across the aviation industry — to probe the role of the pilots in the crash. The first officer expressed surprise that the fuel switches were off and then panicked, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with US officials' early assessment of evidence. The captain seemed to remain calm, according to the report. The Airline Pilots' Association of India has pushed back on human action as the cause. The AAIB didn't immediately respond to requests for comment sent outside normal business hours. The US National Transportation Safety Board, which is assisting on the investigation, referred questions to the Indian authorities. Boeing also referred questions to the AAIB. Air India and GE Aerospace, which manufactured the engines, declined to comment. Air India Chief Executive Officer Campbell Wilson said in a memo to employees on Monday, viewed by Bloomberg News, that the report identified no cause and didn't make any recommendations. 'I urge everyone to avoid drawing premature conclusions as the investigation is far from over,' he said. –BLOOMBERG


Vancouver Sun
7 days ago
- Vancouver Sun
Air India plane crash: Junior pilot asked captain why he turned off fuel switches
A cockpit voice recording of doomed Air India Flight 171 indicates the younger co-pilot asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane's fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter. The information, from people who asked not to be identified because they're not authorized to speak publicly, reveals for the first time who said what in the flight deck. The exchange was first mentioned in last week's preliminary report from India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau probing the June 12 crash in the western city of Ahmedabad, but without identifying the speakers. The report had shown two fuel switches in the cockpit were moved to a cut-off position, causing the Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner to lose lift and crash 32 seconds after takeoff. The other pilot had denied turning off the switches, according to the AAIB, which had extracted data from the cockpit voice recorder. Start your day with a roundup of B.C.-focused news and opinion. By signing up you consent to receive the above newsletter from Postmedia Network Inc. A welcome email is on its way. If you don't see it, please check your junk folder. The next issue of Sunrise will soon be in your inbox. Please try again Interested in more newsletters? Browse here. Aviation experts had speculated that it was first officer Clive Kunder who had posed the question to captain Sumeet Sabharwal given Kunder was the pilot flying and would have had his hands full — one on the yoke commanding the widebody into the skies, and the other on the throttle controlling the aircraft's speed. The Wall Street Journal previously reported who said what in the exchange. The initial investigation showed that the fuel-control switches were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground. How and why the switches came to be turned off — cutting the flow of fuel to the engines — are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane's systems or human error. The two switches sit at the lower end of the aircraft's center console between the two pilot seats and near the thrust levers, and they're designed in a way to prevent unintended movement. There are metal guards on either side of the mushroom-shaped knobs, and the switches themselves have a spring-loaded locking mechanism, requiring a pilot to pull them up before changing the position. Once moved, the switches lock in the run or cutoff position with a tab at their base. While the new details add fresh perspective on the confusion in the cockpit during the 32 seconds between takeoff and crash, investigators still haven't drawn any definitive conclusions. The cockpit recording could be even more revelatory, according to Michael Daniel, a retired Federal Aviation Administration inspector and accident investigator. 'There are multiple microphones around the cockpit including their headsets,' said Daniel. The mic positions mean it's possible that it captured and discerned not just the sound of the fuel switches being turned off, but the direction from which it came in the cockpit — offering investigators definitive information as to who cut off fuel supply to the planes engines, he said. Follow Bloomberg India on WhatsApp for exclusive content and analysis on what billionaires, businesses and markets are doing. Sign up here. Earlier this week, India's civil aviation authority ordered an inspection of cockpit fuel switches on Boeing 737 and 787 aircraft operating in the country in an effort to ascertain whether the crash was caused by equipment failure. Aviation psychologists and medical specialists are also involved in the investigation — a typical practice across the aviation industry — to probe the role of the pilots in the crash. The first officer expressed surprise that the fuel switches were off and then panicked, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with US officials' early assessment of evidence. The captain seemed to remain calm, according to the report. The Airline Pilots' Association of India has pushed back on human action as the cause. The AAIB didn't immediately respond to requests for comment sent outside normal business hours. The US National Transportation Safety Board, which is assisting on the investigation, referred questions to the Indian authorities. Boeing also referred questions to the AAIB. Air India and GE Aerospace, which manufactured the engines, declined to comment. Air India Chief Executive Officer Campbell Wilson said in a memo to employees on Monday, viewed by Bloomberg News, that the report identified no cause and didn't make any recommendations. 'I urge everyone to avoid drawing premature conclusions as the investigation is far from over,' he said. — With assistance from Mihir Mishra and Danny Lee. Our website is the place for the latest breaking news, exclusive scoops, longreads and provocative commentary. Please bookmark and sign up for our daily newsletter, Posted, here .

Sydney Morning Herald
7 days ago
- General
- Sydney Morning Herald
Air India junior pilot asked captain why he turned off fuel switches
A cockpit voice recording of doomed Air India Flight 171 indicates it was the younger co-pilot who asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane's fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter. The information, from people who asked not to be identified because they're not authorised to speak publicly, reveals for the first time who said what in the cockpit. A preliminary report from India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau made public last week included a description of the exchange, including one pilot's denial that he turned off the switches, without identifying the individual speakers. Aviation experts had speculated that it was first officer Clive Kunder who had posed the question to captain Sumeet Sabharwal, given Kunder was the pilot flying and would have had his hands full – one on the yoke commanding the widebody into the skies, and the other on the throttle controlling the aircraft's speed. The Wall Street Journal previously reported who said what in the exchange. The initial investigation showed the fuel-control switches on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground in the city of Ahmedabad. Loading How and why the switches came to be turned off – cutting the flow of fuel to the engines – are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane's systems or human error. And while the new details add fresh perspective on the confusion in the cockpit during the 32 seconds between take-off and crash, investigators still haven't drawn any definitive conclusions. Earlier this week, India's civil aviation authority ordered an inspection of cockpit fuel switches on Boeing 737 and 787 aircraft operating in the country in an effort to ascertain whether the crash was caused by equipment failure.

The Age
7 days ago
- General
- The Age
Air India junior pilot asked captain why he turned off fuel switches
A cockpit voice recording of doomed Air India Flight 171 indicates it was the younger co-pilot who asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane's fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter. The information, from people who asked not to be identified because they're not authorised to speak publicly, reveals for the first time who said what in the cockpit. A preliminary report from India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau made public last week included a description of the exchange, including one pilot's denial that he turned off the switches, without identifying the individual speakers. Aviation experts had speculated that it was first officer Clive Kunder who had posed the question to captain Sumeet Sabharwal, given Kunder was the pilot flying and would have had his hands full – one on the yoke commanding the widebody into the skies, and the other on the throttle controlling the aircraft's speed. The Wall Street Journal previously reported who said what in the exchange. The initial investigation showed the fuel-control switches on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground in the city of Ahmedabad. Loading How and why the switches came to be turned off – cutting the flow of fuel to the engines – are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane's systems or human error. And while the new details add fresh perspective on the confusion in the cockpit during the 32 seconds between take-off and crash, investigators still haven't drawn any definitive conclusions. Earlier this week, India's civil aviation authority ordered an inspection of cockpit fuel switches on Boeing 737 and 787 aircraft operating in the country in an effort to ascertain whether the crash was caused by equipment failure.