
House taking key vote on Trump's "big, beautiful bill" as GOP holdouts threaten final passage
Republican leadership and Mr. Trump spent much of the day Wednesday scrambling to shore up support from skeptical members, ahead of a self-imposed July 4 deadline to get the bill — which squeaked through the Senate on Tuesday — to the president's desk. Before voting on final passage, the House needs to pass a resolution setting the rules of debate for the bill. After hours of delay, that crucial procedural vote began Wednesday at around 9:30 p.m.
As of 1 o'clock Thursday morning, five House Republicans had voted no, which is theoretically enough for the rule vote to fail — but the vote is still open, and lawmakers can change from no to yes. Eight Republicans have not yet voted. Republicans can only afford three defections if all members are present and voting.
Minutes before the vote began, Mr. Trump said on his Truth Social platform that the GOP caucus is "UNITED." But hours later, as a handful of Republican holdouts didn't appear to be budging, the president's mood seemed to sour.
"What are the Republicans waiting for??? What are you trying to prove???" Mr. Trump wrote shortly after midnight. "MAGA IS NOT HAPPY, AND IT'S COSTING YOU VOTES!!!"
He followed that up with a post saying, "FOR REPUBLICANS, THIS SHOULD BE AN EASY YES VOTE. RIDICULOUS!!!"
While voting on the rule was underway, House Speaker Mike Johnson told Fox News' Sean Hannity he plans to keep the vote open "as long as it takes." The Louisiana Republican said he believes some lawmakers who voted no are "open for conversation" and their no votes are "placeholders" while they await answers to some questions about the bill. He said, "We believe we can get everybody to yes."
"I'm absolutely confident we are going to land this plane and deliver for the American people," Johnson said.
House GOP leaders had aimed to move ahead quickly on the signature legislation of Mr. Trump's second-term agenda, which includes ramped-up spending for border security, defense and energy production and extends trillions of dollars in tax cuts, partially offset by substantial cuts to health care and nutrition programs.
But some House Republicans, who voted to pass an earlier version of the bill in May, are unhappy with the Senate's changes.
Potential holdouts, including moderates and members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, met with Mr. Trump on Wednesday as the White House put pressure on House Republicans to get the bill across the finish line. One lawmaker called the meetings "very productive." But GOP Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland, the chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, told reporters earlier Wednesday that he expected the procedural vote to fail in the afternoon.
In a possible sign of movement, one key Republican, Ohio Rep. Warren Davidson, announced on X Wednesday evening that he'd support the bill. It "isn't perfect, but it's the best we'll get," he wrote, adding that he would support the rule and final passage. Davidson was one of two Republicans who voted against the bill when the House first voted on the measure in May.
The president kept up the pressure, posting on Truth Social about June's low border crossing statistics and adding, "All we need to do is keep it this way, which is exactly why Republicans need to pass "THE ONE, BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL."
Several members on both sides of the aisle had their flights canceled or delayed by bad weather as they raced back to Washington for the vote, delaying the process. All the Democrats appeared to be on hand for proceedings by Wednesday afternoon.
House hardliners push back against Senate changes
The House Rules Committee advanced the Senate's changes to the bill overnight, setting up the action on the floor. GOP Reps. Ralph Norman of South Carolina and Chip Roy of Texas joined Democrats on the panel to oppose the rule. Both are among the group of hardliners who are likely to oppose the procedural vote in the full House.
"What the Senate did is unconscionable," Norman said. "I'll vote against it here and I'll vote against it on the floor until we get it right."
Hours later, Norman returned to the Capitol following a meeting with Mr. Trump and other House Republicans. He described the meeting as "very productive" but didn't say whether he will ultimately vote yes, telling reporters he's still trying to learn more about how the bill will be implemented if it passes.
Johnson has spent weeks pleading with his Senate counterparts not to make any major changes to the version of the bill that passed the lower chamber by a single vote in May. He said the Senate bill's changes "went a little further than many of us would've preferred."
The Senate-passed bill includes steeper Medicaid cuts, a higher increase in the debt limit and changes to the House bill's green energy policies and the state and local tax deduction.
Other controversial provisions that faced pushback in both chambers, including the sale of public lands in nearly a dozen states, a 10-year moratorium on states regulating artificial intelligence and an excise tax on the renewable energy industry, were stripped from the Senate bill before heading back to the House.
Johnson said Wednesday, before voting began, that "we are working through everybody's issues and making sure that we can secure this vote" amid the opposition. He added that he and the president are working to "convince everybody that this is the very best product that we can produce."
"I feel good about where we are and where we're headed," Johnson added.
Harris told reporters Wednesday that that the president should call the Senate back into town to come to an agreement on changes to the bill. GOP leaders, however, said the House would vote on the Senate bill "as-is."
Should the House make changes to the bill, the revisions would require the Senate's approval, or force the two chambers to go to conference committee to iron out a final product that the two bodies could agree on, jeopardizing the bill's timely passage.
Rep. Dusty Johnson, a South Dakota Republican, seemed optimistic after the White House meetings with holdouts Wednesday, saying "Donald Trump is a closer" and adding that "members are moving to yes."
"I know there are some members who think they're going to vote no right now," the South Dakota Republican said. "I think when the choice becomes failure or passage, they're going to understand that passage beats the hell out of failing."
GOP Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina likewise urged House Republicans to get the bill to the president's desk Wednesday.
"President Trump has his pen in hand and is waiting for the House to complete its work," Foxx said. "We've championed this legislation for months, have guided it through the appropriate processes, and now we're on the one-yard line."
Meanwhile, with few levers to combat the bill's passage, House Democrats spoke out forcefully against the legislation.
"We will not stand by and watch Trump and his billionaire friends destroy this country without putting up one hell of a fight," Democratic Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts said, calling the bill a "massive betrayal of the American people."
Jeffries said that "every single House Democrat will vote 'hell no' against this one, big ugly bill," while adding that "all we need are four House Republicans to join us in defense of their constituents who will suffer mightily from this bill." Democratic leaders called out some Republicans by name, including Reps. Rob Bresnahan and Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Reps. David Valadao and Young Kim of California.
"It's unconscionable, it's unacceptable, it's un-American, and House Democrats are committing to you that we're going to do everything in our power to stop it," Jeffries said. "All we need are four Republicans, just four."
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Trump's immigrant deportations are ‘morally repugnant,' senior US Catholic leader says
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He was among the more than 100 cardinals who took part in the conclave that elected the first American pope in May. McElroy, who spoke to CNN in Rome on the same day that Trump visited a migrant detention center in Florida known as 'Alligator Alcatraz,' said the 'mechanism' being used was the 'creation of fear' among 10 million undocumented people in the US – 'the great majority' of whom had worked hard and contributed to society. 'This is simply not only incompatible with Catholic teaching, it's inhumane and is morally repugnant,' he added. 'The scenes that occurred in Los Angeles where you saw mass agents of the government descending on car washers and Costco parking lots to round up whoever they can round up is not a sign of going after those who have criminal convictions.' Trump has said his tough immigration policies are necessary to keep criminals off US streets and to ease the burden on US institutions. He has embraced the sinister image of a migrant detention facility surrounded by swampland and reptiles. 'It's known as 'Alligator Alcatraz,' which is very appropriate, because I look outside and it's not a place I want to go,' Trump said Tuesday. McElroy argued that the government had a right to deport people convicted of 'serious crimes,' adding that the problems with immigration were rooted in an American political system that had failed to address immigration law and reform over the last 15 years. But McElroy said people were now 'afraid even to go to church' after the Trump administration removed the policy that prohibited immigration agents from making arrests in sensitive areas, like churches. 'What is behind this?' he asked, referencing the stricter immigration policies and enforcement tactics. 'I fear that one of the main things behind it, in the minds of many who are pushing it, is the sense that the people who are coming to our country now are of a different kind. 'And that's been a great theme in American culture and history all through our country's immigration, when the Irish came, when the Italians came, when the Poles came, the refrain has been the same, 'these are inferior people,' and that's what's going on now… it's an outrage.' The cardinal, a former Bishop of San Diego, is one of several Catholic bishops who have spoken out against Trump's migration policies. But Vice President JD Vance, a devout Catholic who converted in 2019, earlier this year suggested the bishops' criticisms of the Trump administration's policies were motivated by financial interests because the church receives federal funding to resettle immigrants. McElroy hit back in the interview, saying the government funding was far from sufficient to cover the programs and the church had to pick up the shortfall. 'Those who say that haven't done the math on what the church has been contributing over and above what the government has contributed to these programs,' he added. Since his election, Pope Leo has urged respect for migrants, describing himself as 'the descendant of immigrants, who in turn chose to emigrate.' McElroy said that while Leo XIV spoke about immigration in a 'universal' context, 'when you look at what he's saying, it has clear implications for us.' During the interview, Cardinal McElroy also criticized Trump's 'big, beautiful bill' – a sweeping piece of legislation that would extend tax cuts and increase funding for national security, partly paid for by the biggest cut to the federal social safety net in decades. He's recently signed a letter with other bishops and faith leaders opposing the bill. He said it appeared that millions would 'ultimately lose their health care because of this bill so that billionaires can receive greater tax cuts,' adding: 'There's something radically wrong with a society that takes from the poorest to give to the wealthiest. It's just wrong.' In a statement, White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson rejected the criticism – particularly that leveled at the Trump agenda bill. 'The American people elected President Trump, not a DC Archbishop, to serve as their President,' Jackson said. 'President Trump is fulfilling the mandate the American people gave him in November to turn his campaign promises – like no tax on tips, social security, and overtime – into law. The One, Big, Beautiful Bill will be one of the most successful pieces of legislation ever passed and will supercharge our economy to benefit all Americans.' When it came to church reforms and priorities for Pope Leo, McElroy talked about the importance of addressing the role of women. He said this topic had been an 'immensely powerful current' during recent Vatican assemblies, the synod, which looked at questions of church renewal and looked at how to include more women in decision making roles. 'The major thrust has to be look at where women 'aren't' and then ask why?' McElroy supports ordaining women as deacons, who carry out functions like a priest but without saying Mass or hearing confessions, which he says is consistent with the church's theology. 'It's a controversial question within the church,' he admits, 'but I think it would be important to move in that direction.' Cardinal McElroy's candidacy for Washington DC was bolstered by his doctorate in political science from Stanford University, which he was awarded for a thesis on moral norms in foreign policy. He told CNN that the recent US attacks on Iran's nuclear sites could encourage other countries to develop nuclear weapons to defend themselves. He said it was 'critically important' to maintain 'non-proliferation' of nuclear weapons. 'My great fear is that the lessons that nations will take away from this intervention against Iran is that if they have nuclear weapons then they won't be subject to this sort of attack,' he said. 'I think that's an open question. Will this encourage more proliferation because the incentives are stronger now or clearer now, and that's very ominous.' Finally, the cardinal said he believes that Chicago-born Pope Leo would make a visit home – although he did not know when. 'I think when he does come to the United States it will be a great moment for our country.'