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'What's more cruel... jailing someone who can't afford bail, or corporal punishment?'

'What's more cruel... jailing someone who can't afford bail, or corporal punishment?'

The practice was outlawed in prisons in 1996 by an act of Parliament.
He says that there are currently 108,000 beds which are enough to cover the 104,000 sentenced prisoners in our country.
However, there are also 60,000 detainees waiting for trial, and no space to accommodate them.
2,500 of these detainees are low level offenders who cannot afford bail of R1,000 or less.
Groenewald says these detainees can be imprisoned for as long as a year before trial.
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