Land Rover reveals challenge-ready Defender Trophy Edition
Land Rover's Defender sub-brand has launched an 'expedition-ready specification' of the popular Defender 110 4WD SUV, celebrating the iconic British nameplate's return to global adventure challenges.
The 2026 Land Rover Defender Trophy Edition is available in two heritage-inspired colourways – Deep Sandglow Yellow or Keswick Green – and includes 'a range of curated expedition accessories that make the vehicle the perfect companion for every expedition'.
Powered by the 258kW D350 mild-hybrid 3.0-litre inline six turbo-diesel, the Defender Trophy Edition scores gloss black 20-inch alloys shod in all-terrain tyres, dark rear scuff plate and gloss black wheel arch protection, in addition to a front undershield in black.
Trophy decals feature on the bonnet and C-pillars, joined by Trophy rear badging if the special colours weren't enough of a giveaway. Inside, illuminated 'Trophy' treadplates are featured alongside Ebony Windsor leather seats, and a colour-matched cross car beam with laser-etched Trophy badging on the end caps.
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The enhanced standard specification can be augmented by the available Trophy Kit option pack.
Included in the package are a range of genuine Defender accessories like the Expedition Roof Pack, a black deployable roof ladder and a gloss black side-mounted gear carrier.
Rounding out the Trophy Kit extra are Classic Mud Flaps front and rear, as well as a raised air intake – see snorkel.
Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) Australia has confirmed the Defender 110 Trophy Edition for the Australian market, priced from $118,900 plus on-road costs. NSW drive-away pricing starts from $132,578.
The aforementioned Defender Trophy Kit package is priced from $9188 including fitment.
Orders for the Defender Trophy Edition are open now, with first deliveries expected during the fourth quarter of 2025. Supplied Credit: CarExpert
Defender says the Trophy Edition is 'inspired by Trophy and Challenge events of the past but will create its own legacy across three demanding rounds of training and competition'.
The brand is launching its own Defender Trophy adventure competition in partnership with conservation partner Tusk, which has worked with the British off-road specialist for over 20 years.
Entrants will face obstacles as well as mental an physical challenges, described as 'a unique test of wit, willpower and teamwork. Epic Adventure, Greater Purpose'.
The competition will be hosted in Africa, with competitors scored individually but competing in pairs. In front of a global online audience, each challenge stage includes a series of driving, ingenuity and physical challenges, with finalists given 'the opportunity to leave a positive legacy with the people and places touched by Defender Trophy, by completing a unique Tusk conservation mission'.
Australia hasn't been included in the 2025-26 Defender Trophy competition, though Land Rover has confirmed keen Aussies will be invited to enter the 2026-27 challenge. Supplied Credit: CarExpert Supplied Credit: CarExpert Supplied Credit: CarExpert Supplied Credit: CarExpert
Last month Land Rover announced the MY26 Defender lineup, headlined by additional V8-powered variants in addition to a larger touchscreen infotainment system and minor cosmetic tweaks.
First deliveries will commence in October, with full pricing and specifications still to be announced – read more here.
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