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Should the 7-1 split be outlawed?

Should the 7-1 split be outlawed?

Irish Times24-04-2025
The now infamous 7-1 forward split on the bench hit the headlines once again recently when World Rugby announced they would not be outlawing the practice. The innovation, first used by South Africa and made more prominent by France in the recent Six Nations, is controversial in some quarters.
While not quite at culture war levels, the use of extra forwards has prompted a strong rebuke, as either dangerous, against the spirit of the game, or both, from plenty of those involved in the game.
One of those is Owen Doyle. A former international referee and current Irish Times columnist, he joins Nathan Johns to talk through World Rugby's latest law development. Should the 7-1 split be outlawed, or is it simply a case of clever innovation, leaving the rest of the world to catch up?
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Mick would have been a superb character. 'Once once we started to get on to make progress and keep training and you're building up conditioning all the time. After that we were on a roll, essentially.' That roll propelled O'Donovan Rossa to their first senior county title after a semi-final win over Aghada and a 2-9 to 0-10 result against Nemo Rangers in the final. They conquered the province after defeating St Senan's of Clare in the Munster final and picked off the 1991 All-Ireland champions Lavey from Derry in the All-Ireland semi-final. The impact of their run through the championship was colossal. And it extended beyond the boundaries of Skibbereen. Even the folks on the surrounding islands came ashore to support them in the All-Ireland final. Last one to leave turn out the lights, please. '17 buses left from the school,' Ian continues. 'The supporters had a parade from Heuston station, with the pipe band all the way to Croke Park for the drawn match. It was phenomenal, I have no idea. 'All the islanders, which you wouldn't associate with sport. The islands emptied, every one of them was gone to Dublin and Limerick for those games. 'There was such a groundswell of support. And when we came back to Skibb, I was looking at a photograph there of the political rallies that they used to have here before in the olden times, it was that type of crowd.' Irish News Archives (Irish Examiner) Irish News Archives (Irish Examiner) The supporters maintained that effort for the journey home. And they got some help from neighbouring lands in West Cork. The crowds made it difficult for the team to get home to Skibbereen. 'Trying to get out of Inishannon…. Bandon — open top parade,' Ian explains, still filled with amazement all these years later. 'These are all our rivals in football and hurling and rugby. Clonakilty was bananas. We were driving through the main street and there was a low-lying bloody telegraph wire, and Jesus Christ, five or six of us nearly decapitated.' As for that £500 O'Donovan Rossa 33/1 bet, a report in the Southern Star says that the total winnings came to a princely £16,500 in old punt currency. Let the figures dance in your head to come up with an equivalent in today's euros. ***** Enya has only just started to think about Ireland's first Women's Rugby World Cup since 2017. Their opening Pool C game against Japan on 24 August will quickly come into view. Two warm-up games must be accounted for first, starting with Scotland this weekend in a tie that brings up happy memories for Enya. Canada are up next to finalise the World Cup preparations. She thinks of players like Dorothy Wall and Erin King who won't tog out due to long-term injuries. Enya has walked that road before. 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