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What I heard about the Lions' new coordinators and potential draft picks at the combine

What I heard about the Lions' new coordinators and potential draft picks at the combine

New York Times04-03-2025
Here are 25 thoughts from the 2025 NFL Combine.
1. After hearing from new coordinators John Morton and Kelvin Sheppard, it didn't take long to understand why they were chosen. Lions fans and media have labeled certain prospects as 'Dan Campbell guys.' That applies to coaches, too. These two are true Dan Campbell guys.
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If I had to guess, there was intent behind one external hire and one internal. Sheppard has been here from the very beginning. He's the young, fiery, passionate coach who can command a room and act as an extension of Campbell, much like Glenn was. Morton is the veteran whose time with Campbell predates Campbell's Lions tenure. There's a clip from Hard Knocks a few years ago where Campbell asks his staff if they'd miss RB Craig Reynolds if Campbell cut him. Morton was the first coach to speak up in defense of Reynolds. Reynolds has been with the team ever since.
When new Lions OC John Morton stuck up for Craig Reynolds on Hard Knocks in 2022
'I wouldn't cut him, he's everything we represent'
We've got a good one 💙#OnePride pic.twitter.com/nlhIKYB3c0
— 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔇𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔦𝔱 𝔗𝔦𝔪𝔢𝔰 📰 (@the_det_times) February 12, 2025
I'm willing to bet that having both types of personalities — a veteran voice for the offense and a young and energetic leader for the defense — is something Campbell was looking for.
2. Let's start with Morton. I honestly didn't know what to expect personality-wise. But I came away impressed. He's rugged, he's authentic, all about ball. The thing that really piqued my interest was how both Campbell and Sean Payton noted his attention to detail. He's a grinder when it comes to situational football. He loves diving into tendencies and what the opponent does on third down, in the red zone, you name it. He just wants to put his players in a position to succeed.
'Super passionate,' Payton said of Morton in Indy. 'Man, he works his tail off. He's great with film study and ideas. He's one of those guys that'll bring you red zone, third down — like, a lot of information. …He'll do a great job.'
3. One thing that I might've overlooked about Morton is just how much he cherishes this opportunity. He was honest and candid about his stint as Jets OC. He said he wasn't ready for that job and alluded to how he's grown since then. You don't often hear that. I found it refreshing.
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Morton said he knows more about the quarterback position now vs. back then. He said he didn't know any coaches on the Jets staff. In Detroit, he'll be surrounded by coaches he knows and trusts — most notably former Stanford head coach and new Lions passing game coordinator David Shaw, who came up in the NFL with Morton. Morton called Shaw his 'best friend.' He's returning to a group of players he's worked with before, and the Lions have only added talent since he left. He said he doesn't have ambitions of being a head coach and talked about becoming the OC of his hometown team.
If this works out, Campbell will have hired a smart, veteran coach who could be in Detroit for the long haul. That's an incredibly valuable thing in a league where OCs are poached every offseason.
'It means the world,' Morton said. '…It's a dream, right? Not only am I an OC, but I'm in my hometown. I don't think that happens too much. So, I think it's really cool. I don't see it as pressure. I know what the people have been starving for. I mean, everybody is starving for a Super Bowl, but this town, I've seen the ups and the downs, from the very beginning from going to my first game at the Silverdome. …I know what it takes and it's my job to help us get there.'
Dan Campbell on John Morton and the #Lions offensive staff. pic.twitter.com/DdrPPa4Ber
— Detroit Lions (@Lions) February 25, 2025
4. Then there's Sheppard, the in-house hire. I'm told Sheppard had interest from other teams to leave Detroit. Instead, not only did Campbell retain his top remaining defensive assistant, he gave Sheppard the keys to run his defense. It's an opportunity that pretty much everyone in the organization — even Holmes, who walked into Sheppard's office and asked him what he needs for his defense — believes he's ready for. I expect Sheppard to take over as Campbell's right-hand man, just like Glenn was in Detroit.
Dan Campbell on DC Kelvin Sheppard. pic.twitter.com/5DWuztdkxO
— Detroit Lions (@Lions) February 25, 2025
5. I asked Sheppard who his biggest coaching influences are. He mentioned Chiefs DC Steve Spagnuolo, former head coach and Ravens' safeties coach Chuck Pagano, Colts DC Lou Anarumo — who playfully interrupted Sheppard's sitdown interview with local media at the Indianapolis Convention Center — and former Lions DC Aaron Glenn. Campbell revealed this week that he and Glenn had been preparing Sheppard to take over for two years without ever telling him. However, the hints were there. They added responsibilities beyond coaching linebackers to his plate. They had him more involved in the game planning. Eventually, he picked up what they were putting down.
Some coordinators want their position coaches to fall in line and focus on their own rooms. But if Lions fans remember Glenn for one thing, it should be how he brought others along as a coordinator. He was never threatened or worried about losing his job to a young guy like Sheppard. Instead, he paved the way for Sheppard. Sheppard said he wants to do the same.
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'I would say the last two years, to be specific, is just the game-planning aspect — and that really grew last year,' Sheppard said when asked where he's grown the most as a coach. 'AG allowing me to do the things he did weekly, things he allowed me to do for him. …I had a heavy hand in first-, second-down game-planning last year. Those are things that AG put on my plate going into the 2024 season, and he made no mystery why he was doing it. And again, that's something he didn't have to do. Just the trajectory and the outlook they had for me — and you know I had aspirations — but for other people to see that stuff for you and try to put you in position to get there, that's why I owe those guys everything.'
6. There is, of course, some risk with hiring an inexperienced coordinator on a Super Bowl contender. But Sheppard was a cerebral player, playing one of the most cerebral positions in the sport as a middle linebacker. He sees the game through that lens. He has a proven track record of developing linebackers and getting the most out of his position room. Now he has an opportunity to do the same with an entire defense — one that has far more talent than when Glenn first arrived. He has everything he needs to succeed as a first-year DC.
'Listen, Kelvin's been a guy that I've mentored for a while now,' Glenn said of Sheppard. 'He's tough. He's gritty. He understands ball from a number of different perspectives. And listen, I just totally have a lot of confidence in that man. And I think he's gonna do a hell of a job.'
7. It was a bit odd watching Holmes and Browns GM Andrew Berry conduct their news conferences right next to one another. But it was also fitting. ESPN's Kimberly A. Martin reported that the Lions had the most interest in pursuing Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett at the trade deadline. I don't doubt it. They needed help at edge after losing Aidan Hutchinson and Marcus Davenport, Garrett is a generational talent and the two GMs were already in talks about Za'Darius Smith. Worth the ask.
However, Holmes was adamant that teams aren't just handing over their star pass rushers. That was reiterated by Berry's comments in Indy, continuing to tell inquiring minds that Garrett isn't available. We'll see how long that stance lasts. However, Holmes said the Lions probably won't be in the market to add a second star pass-rusher. They're trying to lock up one of their own right now.
8. The Lions are in the planning stages of a Hutchinson extension, as Holmes revealed last week. An extension would make sense sooner rather than later for Hutchinson. He's proved his worth to the organization and was the defensive player of the year frontrunner prior to his season-ending leg injury. The Cowboys are dragging their feet with a Micah Parsons extension, so if you can beat them to the market, you might save a penny (read: million) or two. We'll see how things unfold.
9. You can add Kerby Joseph to that list, if you haven't already. Holmes opened the floor for extension talks at his season-ending press conference. There's hope that a deal gets done this offseason. Even Joseph recently said he wants to be a lifelong Lion. Senior Director of Football Administration Charlie Adkins — hired from the Arizona Cardinals last offseason — is expected to play a big hand in Detroit's offseason extension discussions. If the two sides can't reach an agreement, Joseph will be set to enter free agency in 2026.
Brad Holmes on Kerby Joseph: 'I don't know how you don't make the Pro Bowl with nine interceptions, whatever that is.'
Adds: 'He's a Detroit Lion. He fits our culture. …We want to keep our good players here.'
— Colton Pouncy (@colton_pouncy) January 23, 2025
10. Adkins took over for Brandon Sosna — a respected voice in the Lions' front office prior to his departure last offseason. In his time with the organization, the Lions have extended LT Taylor Decker, RB David Montgomery and DT Alim McNeil.
Sticking with Sosna for a moment, folks I talked to in Indianapolis had nothing but great things to say about him during his time with the organization. He was the chief negotiator for the Lions and helped them get deals with Amon-Ra St. Brown, Penei Sewell and Jared Goff across the finish line last ofseason. Sosna left in May to join the Washington Commanders as senior vice president of football operations. It feels like he's on the fast track for a GM gig here soon. The Holmes tree is growing.
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11. A year ago at the combine, I talked to folks within the organization who strongly felt Jack Campbell was due for a breakout year in 2024. His size, length, instincts and movement skills all made for an intriguing package, and when you pair those traits with his work ethic, it was only a matter of time before he figured things out. That ultimately proved true. Campbell had an excellent sophomore season, leading the Lions in tackles with 131 and always ending plays around the football. If you're into PFF grades, Campbell finished as PFF's 10th-best linebacker during the 2024 season.
If there's a player worth betting on in 2025, it's cornerback Terrion Arnold. Like Campbell, Arnold was a first-round pick who, in the minds of some, didn't live up to the pedigree as a rookie. However, both Campbell and Arnold were put in difficult positions.
12. Campbell was asked to play out of position as a SAM linebacker before the team finally let him settle in at MIKE. Not to mention the mental requirements of the linebacker position. Arnold, meanwhile, led all cornerbacks in man coverage snaps as a rookie and was routinely put on an island. This style of play isn't for everyone. Fellow rookie and Eagles cornerback Quinyon Mitchell played just 26 percent of his snaps in man coverage, per PFF. Arnold played 46.2 percent of his snaps in man. A workload that heavy could've ruined the confidence of other young corners, but Arnold is here because he's never lacking in that department. He is the most self-assured rookie I've ever covered.
Here's what The Athletic's Dane Brugler — who had Arnold as the 10th-best prospect on his final 2024 big board –— told me when I asked for his opinion of Arnold's rookie season.
'There was always going to be a learning curve for him with the difference in the way they flag corners between college and the NFL,' Brugler said. 'That defense really asked a lot from him. But the way he is wired is what separates him. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't take a clear and obvious step forward in year two.'
13. During combine podium sessions with prospects, there were, like, a staggering number of prospects who mentioned Lions players among their favorites to watch or model their games after.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised because, you know, 15-2 Super Bowl contender and whatnot. But it's still a reminder of how far this team has come.
14. At this point in time, if I were to throw a few names into a first-round hat for the Lions, you'd find the following players inside: Harmon, Boston College edge Donovan Ezeiruaku, Alabama LB Jihaad Campbell, Alabama G Tyler Booker, Ohio State T/G Donovan Jackson, Ohio State DT Tyleik Williams, North Dakota State G/C Grey Zabel, Texas A&M edge Nic Scourton, South Carolina DB Nick Emmanwori and East Carolina CB Shavon Revel. Personally, I love their games. Think they fit what the Lions like, too.
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15. There's still room on the Jihaad Campbell bandwagon. He's one my favorite prospects in the entire class. He's versatile enough to rush the passer or drop into coverage. He's an awesome athlete with a 4.52 40 and a 9.95 relative athletic score. He was so fluid in his positional drills. Love everything about his game. He had a formal meeting with the Lions in Indianapolis. He's going to make a defense better from Day 1.
'I feel as though I'm Mr. Can-Do-It-All,' Campbell said at the combine. 'I'm a Swiss Army Knife.'
16. I was incredibly impressed by Ezeiruaku's football IQ. During his podium session, he spent time breaking down his pass-rush technique, and the detail he went into was unlike any of his peers who spoke. He has a deep bag of moves, and uses them based on what the tape tells him about the offensive lineman he's going up against. Here's him explaining the usage of his ghost move:
Couldn't have been more impressed with ED Donovan Ezeiruaku during his podium session. Great clip here of him breaking down the 'why' of a ghost pass rush move
Said his mentality is what separates him in a great edge rush class — I believe it pic.twitter.com/UExo4dIYDB
— Trevor Sikkema (@TampaBayTre) February 26, 2025
Smart, productive and athletic. Stock solidified.
17. Scourton, only 20 years old, might've been the most mature prospect I heard from. He wore a medallion with a photo of his late uncle Harold inside — a man he called a father figure since his own was incarcerated. 'I'm originally from a small town in East Texas, man,' Scourton said. 'Nobody makes it out. And he told me, 'One day, you're going to be great.' I never believed it, but he did. He was a special guy.'
Scourton said he plays for his community and doesn't take anything for granted. When he was done speaking, I walked over to my colleague Nick Baumgardner and we just sort of shared an unspoken look. I think the Lions are gonna love him.
18. Some will ding Booker because of his poor testing numbers at the combine. Don't be one of them. He's a Day 1 starting guard. And he's wired like this.
'The thing I love most about football is taking the love away from other people.'
Alabama's Tyler Booker with the most trench guy answer possible when asked why he loves the game: pic.twitter.com/OxDR911LcA
— alex katson 🇯🇵 (@alexkatson) March 1, 2025
The offensive line route makes a ton of sense for the Lions. They could stand to get younger at the position. Christian Mahogany's rise is a good start. Adding someone like Booker, Zabel or Jackson would make a ton of sense.
19. Arguably, Emmanwori was the biggest combine winner. He's the definition of a freak athlete, scoring a perfect 10.00 relative athletic score. He's versatile enough to play safety, nickel or even operate in the box at times. He's not a perfect fit for the Lions, with Branch and Joseph at safety, but my goodness. If he's there at 28, not sure how you pass him up. Same for Georgia S Malaki Starks, if teams are dumb enough to let him fall to 28.
The 2025 NFL Combine is in the books, and @dpbrugler joined me to break down everything you need to know.
The latest top-3 buzz, projecting the top QBs, and who shined during workouts all week.
Including an all-time showing by Nick Emmanwori.
Full show: https://t.co/GkwktVyqvf pic.twitter.com/W5HwgCIjiw
— Robert Mays (@robertmays) March 3, 2025
20. Harmon is one of several defensive tackles who could be available at 28. He's my favorite of some of the names you'll see. He's got a quick first step at 6-foot-5 and a half, 313 pounds. Extremely versatile. Productive in college and turned in the sixth-fastest 40 and the seventh-fastest 10-yard split. First-round talent.
Another DT I like a lot: Williams from Ohio State. Excellent run defender. Crushed his position drills. I don't think 334-pounders are supposed to move like this. Feel like I'm higher on him than most.
Tyleik Williams is showing out today pic.twitter.com/VLVCnlvo3D
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) February 27, 2025
21. A defensive tackle who will check every character box for the Lions is Maryland's Jordan Phillips. I asked Phillips what drives him and why he plays. Here's part of his answer: 'Football is the ultimate competitive team in sport. Going out there, playing hard for my teammates and us collectively getting that win — that's what makes me go hard every day.' No. 73 on Brugler's most recent big board. Wrestling background. Led all DTs with 29 bench reps. Lot to like.
Squats 750 lbs.
Benchs 495 lbs.
Power cleans 395 lbs. @TerpsFootball DT Jordan Phillips is STRONG strong 💪 @StaceyDales
📺: 2025 #NFLCombine on @nflnetwork
📱: Stream on @NFLPlus pic.twitter.com/fe4DQrqdpY
— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) February 27, 2025
22. It was disappointing to see Kenneth Grant unavailable for most of the defensive tackle testing. He said he planned to run a 4.9 40 at 332 pounds, maybe even a 4.8 40, but a hamstring injury limited him to bench reps. He said he wanted to hit 30-plus bench reps, then managed only 22 — the fewest among DTs. Then his day was done. Less than ideal, but he's got time to make up for it.
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23. Marshall edge Mike Green did not test and spent much of his podium session denying sexual assault allegations.
24. A couple of under-the-radar positions the Lions could be on the hunt for: a big-bodied receiver and a blocking tight end. They're doing their homework.
25. If you've made it this far, I appreciate you. There was a lot going on at the combine, but hopefully we covered enough ground here. Thanks for reading.
(Top photo of Dan Campbell: Stacy Revere / Getty Images)
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His gunslinger mentality could make him a decent stream on occasion, but the 40-year-old may not win Cleveland's wide-open quarterback competition. 32. Tyler Shough, New Orleans Saints. Shough, a second-round rookie, is in line to start for the Saints. The 25-year-old rookie has seven years of college experience but will have a tough task posting strong results in an aging New Orleans offense. 33. Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons. Cousins' track record as a solid NFL quarterback gives him the best chance among backup quarterbacks to get on the field. He struggled at times last season, his first in Atlanta, but had a couple of four-touchdown games when healthy. 34. Jameis Winston, New York Giants. Winston throws a lot of interceptions, but he also makes a lot of explosive plays. He could end up being a matchup-based streamer if he supplants Wilson as the Giants' starter. 35. Kenny Pickett, Cleveland Browns. 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Loneliness, resiliency and using Madden: the life of the NFL's most prolific journeyman
Loneliness, resiliency and using Madden: the life of the NFL's most prolific journeyman

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Loneliness, resiliency and using Madden: the life of the NFL's most prolific journeyman

FootballFacebookTweetLink Follow In 2008, the NFL was a vastly different league than it is now. Tom Brady was still in his first decade of his 23-season-long career, games were still available to watch on analog television and Aaron Rodgers – currently the league's oldest active player – had only just been announced as the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. This was the NFL Josh Johnson was stepping into as a rookie. Since then, Johnson has been a member of 14 different teams – including the San Francisco 49ers four times, the Baltimore Ravens three times and three other teams twice – meaning he holds the record for the most teams a player has been on. It is a journey that has sent the 39-year-old to every corner of the US – with stints in other professional football leagues included. It is an odyssey which has had its ups and downs for Johnson, battling loneliness, doubt and finding his place in the game he loves. And it's a trek which has taught Johnson lessons not only about football, but also about life, family and himself. 'It means resiliency to me now,' Johnson told CNN Sports when asked what his record means to him. 'It means faith. It means determination. It means always being able to find a way. 'And that comes from my family. That's my family trait. That's a lot of faith, that's a lot of belief. Because I'm in a lot of situations where it didn't look like it was going to be in my favor, things worked out in my favor.' Having played his college football at San Diego, Johnson was selected in the fifth round of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After serving as the team's backup on his rookie contract – in the five starts he made for the Bucs, he had an 0-5 record – Johnson moved to new pastures. He chose to sign for the 49ers, the team he grew up supporting as a California native which was led by his coach at San Diego, Jim Harbaugh. But what seemed like the perfect opportunity for Johnson quickly turned into devastating blow and a moment of learning for the young, aspiring quarterback. Johnson was let go as part of the Niners' roster cuts ahead of the 2012 season, missing out on the third quarterback spot to Scott Tolzien, with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick on the team already. It was the first time in his career that Johnson had been cut from a team and, for it happen through his college coach and with his hometown team, it had a big impact on Johnson. 'I remember that day like it happened yesterday. I felt like my world ended the first time,' he remembered. In the face of the blow to his confidence – he described being cut as not 'part of my initial plan' – Johnson focused on remaining true to who he was. 'I had to make sure that, firstly: 'Don't forget who you are.' And then secondly, it was: 'Ok, why are you still doing this?'' he said. 'It's like: 'You love football. You love getting out on the grass. You love going through the process of getting better. You love going out there being able to compete and you love going out there and doing your thing on the field. So get up, get off your ass and go get back to it.'' From there, Johnson's nomadic journey began in earnest. After a brief stint in the United Football League with the Sacramento Mountain Lions before the league folded, Johnson bounced around the NFL with numerous teams over the next years, including four franchises in 2015 alone. This process of moving around the league, having to keep stopping and starting brought about a range of emotions for Johnson, especially doubt and loneliness. 'Doubt was more so like not understanding when your next opportunity is going to come from,' he told CNN Sports. 'You got to listen to other people's advice to hope that: 'OK, this is going to work itself out.'' As for loneliness, he explains that it was an emotion he dealt with primarily at the start of the epic journey, particularly as he was in the early stages of a relationship with his now-wife. 'The loneliness was for the first few days because it was more so like I felt like I let myself down. I felt like I didn't put myself in position to be successful in the way that I wanted to be,' he said. The constant churn of teams was also a stark reminder that while football is a sport, it is also a business – and sometimes business decisions have to be made. 'The NFL is kind of a tricky thing on how people view you. Somebody may love you, somebody may hate you, and it depends on who that person is,' Johnson said. He highlights learning from the plethora of stellar head coaches he's played under, soaking up the wisdom they have imparted and the personal bonds he's formed with teammates and coaching staff as the reasons why he believes he's stuck around and 'created a little niche' in the league. Throughout this long, winding path around the NFL, Johnson – who is now with the Washington Commanders – had to reconsider what he could offer and bring to a franchise. He isn't able to contribute on the field as much as he'd like, but through his 'knowledge for the game' and personal relationships, he believes he's still a valuable asset to have around. Outside of the team facilities, Johnson says he does his own research – whether through conversations, on social media or on the EA Sports video game franchise 'Madden' – to ensure he's as clued in as he can possibly be. The hard work Johnson puts in helps endear himself to his teammates and therefore, he says, 'gain their respect.' Johnson has been in football for 18 years and has met plenty of different faces. And he crosses paths with those coaches who he encountered during his early years, something he says also helps his reputation. 'When I was in my earlier days in the league, I showed them the respect, talk football with them and got to know them and they're like: 'This guy knows ball,'' he said. 'In our game, people respect doing that. 'And when they start getting opportunities and our paths cross again, I've come to find out there's another level of trust that I've gained organically. All those things to me have compiled into creating opportunity for someone. Because most guys don't play this long as backups. I don't have a lot of starts, but I've been in professional football, specifically, for 18 years.' Switching teams so regularly means he's constantly having to meet and form bonds with new people, despite running into familiar faces occasionally. Forming a personal relationship with someone in an organization will help both you and them, Johnson explains. 'We just value someone's name and just having that natural bond and getting to know them,' he said. 'That can spread you thin a little bit. 'Because knowing people in the organization is very important because they're resources and they do a lot of things that can make your life a little easier. But also getting to know them helps them serve you a lot better.' Over the years, Johnson has learned some tricks to help acquaint himself with new colleagues, from researching the background of management or coaches or looking up teammates on Madden to know a bit about their game. He describes it as the kind of research you were taught to do at college and means he's 'not learning playbooks and people all from scratch at the same time.' Johnson has picked up a haul of memorabilia over his NFL career and someday hopes to deck out his permanent home with it all to remember every stop he's been along the way. A longer content idea has also been bubbling round his head – like a feature film or a documentary about his life – for when he does eventually hang up his cleats, due to the unique nature of his career. 'We all want to have a Hall of Fame career, but somebody's going to get the high side of things, somebody will get the low side of things,' he said. But this movement around the league has brought its own logistical challenges, as well as personal ones. Logistically, Johnson's permanent home has always remained in Oakland. And on his journey around the country – he describes having 'a lot of zip codes under my belt' – he's tried all sorts of moving techniques. Johnson's had a consistent home in a city, lived in a hotel or in short-term housing. He's 'done it all,' he says, also noting that he changes what he brings to each new location. 'I used to go from moving everything with me to not bringing anything but some clothes and toothbrush to sometimes – because I've only on the team for a week – to just buying some clothes when I've been out there and just wearing the gear that they gave me,' he said. One bit of advice from Johnson: make friends with a moving company. 'The more moving companies in my phone, the better,' he said. While his wife used to stay at their permanent residence while he moved around, their perspective changed over recent years and now she – and their son – joins him often on his travels. 'She's a big part of who I am, a big part of my journey, there's a different level of comfort when she's around, just to endure the things that I normally have to go through,' he said. 'Because every time you switch teams, it's like you've got to reprove yourself. You got to reprove yourself to a locker room, to an organization, to a coaching staff. And my wife matters in part of that process.'

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