I've stared into eyes of serial killers & seen the face of evil – why cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer is the worst I ever met

Scottish Sun

4 days ago

WHEN journalist Nancy Glass stared into the eyes of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer - she realised he was unlike any other murderer she'd sat in front of.
Glass - a six-time Emmy award-winning producer - spoke to twisted cannibal Dahmer in a 1993 TV interview, a year before he was murdered in prison at the hands of a fellow inmate.
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Nancy Glass, right, sat down with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer in 1993
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In the interview, Nancy asked Dahmer about his crimes
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She told how Dahmer was quiet and polite, but 'not charming'
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A mugshot of the killer, taken in 1991. He was convicted of 16 murders the following year and sentenced to 16 consecutive life terms in prison
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Nancy has revealed what made Dahmer the most chilling of all the criminals she interviewed
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It was the first time the serial killer had ever given a public interview since being sentenced to life in prison for the murders of 17 men and boys, with the chat airing on CNN's Inside Edition.
Speaking to The Sun, Nancy, who has interviewed other murderers and criminals in her illustrious career, explained what made Dahmer the most chilling of all to speak to.
She said: "My first impression of Dahmer was how normal he appeared.
"It makes you think that anybody could be capable of crimes like this.
"If he had acted like a maniac, I would have been more relieved."
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She said Dahmer was "not charming", but at the same time, "you wouldn't have picked him out of a crowd".
Although she doesn't know exactly why Dahmer agreed to an interview with him, she believes one reason was simply that he was "lonely" and "wanted to talk".
Getting an interview with Dahmer was no easy task.
It took more than a year and a half to secure the exclusive, building a relationship with the murderer and his family.
Nancy, now 69, said: "He wanted to talk to somebody and he had gotten used to talking to me.
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A bloodstained mattress is removed from Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment
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Cops outside the killer's apartment
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Dahmer's lair was filled with tools including knives and saw blades
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The monster was known to have used vats of acid to dissolve his victims
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Jeffrey Dahmer was the devil's best friend. I believe he killed more than 16. I can never forgive him but it's helping others that carries me through.
She made it clear there were no conditions for the interview - and that she would let him speak.
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In this way, he revealed his true evil self.
Nancy said: "His mind is not like yours and mine. He was so twisted.
"The only thing that is fair is the truth. I'm not there to prosecute him, but by telling the truth, people realise what evil was there, and the intentionality of it."
She added: "I've interviewed other serial killers, and he wasn't like any of them."
Nancy recalled an interview with Joel Rifkin, who murdered between nine and 17 women between 1989 and 1993.
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She said killers usually blame something or someone for pushing them to commit their crimes.
Let's not sugarcoat this, he was a psychopath. I had no sympathy whatsoever
Nancy Glass
In contrast, she said, Dahmer "put his crimes on himself. He knew what he did".
Through speaking to him, it was clear he was "sad" at his predicament.
She said: "He stayed up all night and slept all day because he couldn't face the daylight.
Although in the interview, Dahmer says sorry for his crimes, Nancy believes he "didn't understand what that meant".
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She went on: "Let's not sugarcoat this. He was a psychopath. I had no sympathy whatsoever."
Throughout their interview, which resurfaced in the wake of the Netflix limited series Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, the killer never lets the mask slip, maintaining a polite, almost shy facade throughout.
For Nancy, who had read all of the depositions and knew details of Dahmer's murders too gruesome to be shared with the public, the contrast between his calm demeanour in front of her and what he had done was even more chilling.
Cannibal's warped collection of body parts
TWISTED cannibal murderer Jeffrey Dahmer kept a stomach-churning collection of body parts in his 'house of horrors', including a severed head in his freezer and a huge drum full of male torsos.
After Dahmer was eventually arrested in 1991, he admitted to saving human leftovers and freezing the parts for him to eat later.
But beyond his sick cannibalistic desires, 'The Milwaukee Monster' confessed to his grotesque plans to build a "bone altar" out of the skeletons of his victims.
Crude, childlike drawings revealed his rough designs for such an altar, including painted skulls and skeletons arranged around a black table, incense, and a chair arranged in front it for sick rituals.
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Nancy was most struck by how 'normal' Dahmer appeared
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Dahmer was killed in prison just a year after the interview aired
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Between 1978 and 1991, Dahmer killed and dismembered 17 young men and boys
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"It's so baffling how anybody could be so cruel and do such terrible things," she said.
"There are crimes of passion and crimes of revenge, but this was the intentional destruction of human life.
"You ask, how could anybody be this way?"
In the aftermath of her bombshell interview, Nancy said Dahmer and his family were furious with her.
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Dahmer's parents even complained to Nancy: "You've made him look like a monster!"
But as Nancy responded, Dahmer "made himself look like a monster".
She added: "I don't want a criminal to be pleased with their portrayal."
Today, Nancy is CEO of Glass Entertainment Group and has more than 22 TV shows and podcasts currently in production in the US.
In the years since she has spoken further to Dahmer's family.
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"They are still unhappy with the interview," she said, "but they've come to terms with who he is."
Just a year after the interview aired, Dahmer was killed in prison by a fellow inmate in Wisconsin - where he was serving 16 life sentences for his vile murders.