Chris Scott forced to takes sides in spat between old teammates Michael Voss and Craig McRae
The feud started when McRae, the coach of Collingwood, mentioned in a media conference about a meeting with Blues star Jack Silvagni.
Silvagni is of course a son and grandson of Carlton greats, and the Blues camp were unimpressed that McRae had 'outed' their player as a possible target.
Making matters worse, Carlton and Collingwood and fierce and old rivals, and Blues fans would be filthy to see the great Silvagni name (Sergio Silvagni and his son Stephen are both legends) in a Collingwood jumper.
After McRae went public about his meeting with Jack, Voss hit back
'Regardless of what Craig did, it's not something we would do. We will respect the privacy of the player,' Voss said.
'It's not for me to announce something like that on behalf of someone, because they're the ones that have to walk back into the locker room.'
Appearing on Channel 7's The Agenda Setters on Tuesday, Scott was asked whose team was he on, Team Voss or Team McRae?
'I'm a little bit more Team Voss on this one,' Scott said about his former premiership teammates.
'But in Fly's (McRae) defence, that's kind of him, like he's a funny guy, and that's sort of him being himself a bit.'
Scott there were two sides to the story when players sound out a club for a possible move.
'(That's) the reality of the situation. And I think most people in the footy industry know now that players, especially with free agency coming in, they really have an obligation to do their research,' Scott said.
'It's not just clubs chasing players. It's really players working out (who they want to play for).'
Scott said players could not make a decision in October with 'two weeks notice' when the trade window or free agency window was open.
'(The players) need to meet with these people. I don't think it is the clubs preying on those guys. So that's the reality of the situation,' Scott said.
'But I don't think it's something that clubs should be promoting necessarily ...
'There's a reality that it's happening but to talk about it ... I think it is something that probably the media wants and the fans might like to know, but there are a lot of things that they like to know that they shouldn't, in my opinion.
'So I think Vossy's point is really well made ... It's not up to the prospective club to out that player knowing full well that the player's got to walk back into the locker room and front, you know, his teammates especially and the coach in some parts.
'Now, I'd be staggered if Carlton weren't aware that Silvagni was assessing his options.'
Scott then used St Kilda coach Ross Lyon and a meeting he had with Geelong forward Tyson Stengle when Stengle was out of contract.
'He spoke with Tyson Stengle ... I get it ... so he should, that's fine, but I don't think we should be screaming it from the rooftops ...'
Scott said clubs would be naive to think that out of a list of 45 players that some of those players would not be actively thinking about playing for another club, and rival clubs would be thinking about poaching players.
'I think it's happens a little bit with staff as well. Like we've got three really good assistant coaches that, in my view, if they want to, can be head coaches,' Scott said.
'Now, it's kind of incumbent on them at some point to take up the invitation to speak to another club.
'I'll give you another example, like Corey Enright, someone I rate really highly. He'd spent his whole football life at Geelong. It was only logical that he should consider going somewhere else to get a little bit more experience.
'Now, I prefer it didn't happen, but I'm kind of OK with the fact that it did.'
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