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New trains on London's Bakerloo line could arrive much sooner than expected

New trains on London's Bakerloo line could arrive much sooner than expected

Time Outa day ago
Brown line-riding Londoners, rejoice! The oldest trains on the London Underground could finally be replaced before the decade is up.
At 53 years old, Bakerloo line trains have needed to retire for some time now. In 2024, Sadiq Khan said that they were 20 years past their use by date and deputy mayor for transport Seb Dance said that it was 'quite astonishing' they were even still working.
London Centric reported that last week TfL boss Andy Lord said that the ordering of new Bakerloo line trains could start in the coming months, thanks to a new £2.2bn new capital renewals program by the central government. Those trains would be walk-through and air-conditioned with CCTV, like the new Piccadilly line trains that are currently being built (but which were recently delayed).
However, Lord caveated that the trains still wouldn't come into service until the latter end of the decade. That's because there is a 'significant amount of infrastructure upgrade' needed on the line before the new trains can start running.
That's about all the updates we have for now. Unfortunately there's still no solid date in the diary for when the Bakerloo line will finally offer 21st century tube travel. The news comes soon after a report revealed that the majority of Londoners support proposals for a Bakerloo line extension, which can only happen once the current outdated trains are replaced. You can read more about what that extension would look like here.
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New trains on London's Bakerloo line could arrive much sooner than expected
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New trains on London's Bakerloo line could arrive much sooner than expected

Brown line-riding Londoners, rejoice! The oldest trains on the London Underground could finally be replaced before the decade is up. At 53 years old, Bakerloo line trains have needed to retire for some time now. In 2024, Sadiq Khan said that they were 20 years past their use by date and deputy mayor for transport Seb Dance said that it was 'quite astonishing' they were even still working. London Centric reported that last week TfL boss Andy Lord said that the ordering of new Bakerloo line trains could start in the coming months, thanks to a new £2.2bn new capital renewals program by the central government. Those trains would be walk-through and air-conditioned with CCTV, like the new Piccadilly line trains that are currently being built (but which were recently delayed). However, Lord caveated that the trains still wouldn't come into service until the latter end of the decade. That's because there is a 'significant amount of infrastructure upgrade' needed on the line before the new trains can start running. That's about all the updates we have for now. Unfortunately there's still no solid date in the diary for when the Bakerloo line will finally offer 21st century tube travel. The news comes soon after a report revealed that the majority of Londoners support proposals for a Bakerloo line extension, which can only happen once the current outdated trains are replaced. You can read more about what that extension would look like here.

'Pole hogging' is tormenting commuters on the London Tube network
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From bare beating to knee-knockers, Metro has coined plenty of creative terms for irritating commuter habits. But just when we thought bad travel etiquette couldn't get any worse, we discovered a new type of offender: 'pole hoggers'. This is exactly what it sounds like: people who lean against poles on the Tube, preventing other commuters from holding on. These passengers haven't appeared out of nowhere. Anyone who's ever jumped on the Tube will have encountered a leaner, who appears blissfully unaware that others might require them for, you know, staying upright. But now, they're driving such frustration that dozens of people have taken to Reddit and TikTok to call them out. And it's drummed up serious debate. Fuel your wanderlust with our curated newsletter of travel deals, guides and inspiration. Sign up here. In one recent thread, unsubtly titled 'Preventing others from holding the pole,' someone shared a photo of a woman leaning on their hand. 'Busy commute to work, and this woman is leaning against the pole, on her phone, taking up as much room as possible, preventing people from getting on the train while leaning on my hand the entire commute.' They said she then dared to turn around and 'angrily' stare at them like they were invading her personal space. 'The entitlement is simply incredible to witness,' they concluded. Commenters had plenty to say, with many sharing their own experiences. Others made jokes about how to react to the situation. 'Plot twist, they think a stranger decided to be kind and give a free massage,' one person said, while another wrote: 'And turn your hand, so that your knuckles annoy the person so much that they move….' A third shared perhaps the funniest response: 'Stand directly in front, smile, and reach around or above them for a grip. Smile, and talk about the weather.' On a serious note, best to avoid this one. Another Reddit thread called 'Pole Hogs' asked Londoners how they feel about the habit. One person recalled a recent Overground experience: 'I'm really short and this woman was leaning against the whole pole, there was really nowhere to hold on to. When the next batch of people got off, I moved to the next pole and she literally looked at me and rolled her eyes. Not sure what her beef was but I'm always baffled by people who seem to be rude just for the sake of it.' More Trending However, not everyone found 'pole hogging' to be such a big deal. One person suggested a quick and polite 'excuse me' does the trick, as another made the point that some people – particularly tourists – don't even realise they're doing it. Or, that they have no idea it's not particularly good public transport etiquette. Like any annoying commuter habit, the best course of action is to be polite. With a smile, ask if they wouldn't mind moving so that you can also hold onto the rail. In most cases, people will comply. Not everyone is rude. If the person leaning on the pole isn't doing any harm (e.g. the carriage isn't busy or you're sitting nowhere near them), let it go. It's not the end of the world. MORE: 'The Tavistock Square bus exploded right in front of me' MORE: 'My instinct was just to help people – it changed my life' MORE: 'Commuters thought they were invincible until 7/7 – I fear it could happen again'

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