logo
How new seasons of ‘The Bear' and ‘Squid Game' will impact their Emmy hopes for previous seasons

How new seasons of ‘The Bear' and ‘Squid Game' will impact their Emmy hopes for previous seasons

Yahoo18 hours ago
You're only as good as your last season at the Emmys — even if that season is not eligible.The strategy of dropping a new season of a show while you're competing for the previous season is nothing new, especially with cable and streaming series unburdened by the September-through-May broadcast season schedule. Voters have something new to chew on while they're technically voting for the previous season (Emmy eligibility is June 1-May 31). Mad Men's first four seasons premiered in in July or August, around the Emmy nominations announcements or Phase 2 voting. The AMC show, of course, won Best Drama Series for those four seasons.Four years ago, Apple TV+ shrewdly scheduled Season 2 of Ted Lasso to premiere on July 23, 10 days after nominations and 11 months after the series premiere. After becoming everyone's comfort show during the pandemic, Ted was already the comedy front-runner, but Season 2 locked in Brett Goldstein's Best Comedy Supporting Actor win over three costars for Season 1 with the Roy Kent showcase episode "Rainbow."It was déjà vu two years ago when Richie (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) got his own standout showcase, "Forks," in Season 2 of The Bear, which dropped right before Phase 1 voting closed. That lifted Moss-Bachrach to a Best Comedy Supporting Actor win for Season 1, one of 10 Emmys the breakout hit bagged for its maiden season. "Forks" was Moss-Bachrach's "Rainbow." And last year, "Napkins" was Liza Colón-Zayas' "Forks." That was the Bear star's Tina-centric installment in the uneven third season that premiered after nominations voting end and likely contributed to its shocking Best Comedy Series loss for its beloved second season to Hacks.Which brings us to this year. The Bear dropped all 10 episodes of its fourth season on June 25 (say what you will about The Bear, but it delivers annual seasons — it produced three seasons between Severance's first and second seasons.) Phase 1 voting closed on June 23, so Season 4 has no effect on the nominations for Season 3, which will be announced July 15, but it could impact Phase 2. Squid Game, which won Best Drama Actor for Lee Jung-jae and Best Drama Directing for Hwang Dong-hyuk for Season 1 in 2022, is in the same boat; Squid Game in Emmy contention for its second season and premiered its third and final season on June 27. The commonalities run deeper, though, because both shows are seeking a booster shot for their Emmy-eligible seasons that didn't live up to expectations. But what happens when the new seasons also aren't quite up to par?The Bear's wheel-spinning, Fak-heavy third season lost a lot of the goodwill the show built through its acclaimed first two outings, which only magnified the discourse over the show's classification as a comedy. After its Emmy loss — again, for Season 2 — to Hacks, The Bear flopped at the winter awards, where it contended for its divisive third season. If you're a ride-or-die for The Bear, you probably hoped a strong fourth season landing in the summer would buttress Season 3's Emmy chances. That hasn't exactly happened. The reception to Season 4, by critics and fans, has been... OK. On Metacritic, its critics score is 73, which is down from the 80 it got for Season 3. On Rotten Tomatoes, Season 4 sits at 85 percent, a 4 percent drop from Season 3. That's obviously not disastrous, but it's also not the euphoric acclaim the first two seasons received. Meanwhile, Squid Game Season 3 got comparatively softer reviews, netting a 66 on Metacritic, a four-point increase on Season 2, and 78 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, down from Season 2's 83 percent. Unlike The Bear, Squid Game was never as much of a critical darling as The Bear was, but it compensated by being a massive hit its first season, surpassing Bridgerton as Netflix's most-watched show at the time with 1.65 billion viewing hours in its first four weeks. It was loud and noisy, and people loved it, just like they loved The Bear's first two seasons.But now the bloom is off the rose for both. Regardless of the critical reception, the fan reception has not been there, and that's more damning to their potential Emmy bumps. Fan reaction has been mixed at best for The Bear Season 4 and Squid Game Season 3, similar to the reception for their respective third and second seasons. (Squid Game is still generating a ton of eyeballs in Netflix terms, but just because a lot of people are watching, that doesn't mean everyone who watched it loves it.) And worse, neither show has captured the zeitgeist the way their well-received earlier seasons did. Think of how many times you saw that clip of Richie singing "Love Story" recirculated the first weekend of The Bear Season 2. Or everyone tweeting about how much "Fishes" triggered them. Nothing from Season 4 has inspired that level of interest. Squid Game, unfortunately, has the opposite problem, in which the series is prompting viral posts criticizing its A-list cameo, its ending, and this season's cringe VIPs.Now, you might say that fans don't vote for the Emmys. They don't, but buzz matters, especially in an era when voters are watching, like, four shows max. The Bear and Squid Game are big, Emmy-winning series, so it's not a visibility issue, but if a voter was disappointed by their Emmy-eligible previous seasons, they need a reason to check out the new seasons. To have FOMO. To be part of the conversation. And an averagely received season that isn't sparking excitement is not going to get the job done. The Bear, which was renewed for a fifth season on Tuesday, will get a bunch of Emmy nominations. It dropped to fourth place in the Best Comedy Series odds, but it ought to be safely in, in addition to multiple acting categories. Squid Game is in a more precarious position, sitting in eighth place in the Best Drama Series odds, while Lee, currently in seventh place, is not predicted to return to the Best Drama Actor lineup. But no matter the nominations each show gets, their new seasons are leaning more toward "slump" than "bump" for Phase 2.
More from Gold Derby
'Back to the Future' at 40: All the ways the Robert Zemeckis classic was snubbed by the Oscars
'Jurassic World Rebirth' set to take a bite out of July 4 weekend box office
Best of Gold Derby
Cristin Milioti, Amanda Seyfried, Michelle Williams, and the best of our Emmy Limited Series/Movie Actress interviews
Paul Giamatti, Stephen Graham, Cooper Koch, and the best of our Emmy Limited Series/Movie Actor interviews
Lee Jung-jae, Adam Scott, Noah Wyle, and the best of our Emmy Drama Actor interviews
Click here to read the full article.
Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

What it was like inside the courtroom during the Sean ‘Diddy' Combs trial
What it was like inside the courtroom during the Sean ‘Diddy' Combs trial

CNN

time24 minutes ago

  • CNN

What it was like inside the courtroom during the Sean ‘Diddy' Combs trial

Sean 'Diddy' Combs dropped to his knees, placed his hands together, and bowed his head moments after the jury found him not guilty of the most serious criminal charges he faced, giving him a second chance at life. He also turned to the jury box with his palms in the prayer-like position and nodded his head in gratitude to the 12 for their decision. As the hip-hop mogul was led out of the courtroom on the 26th floor of the federal courthouse in lower Manhattan, two rows filled with supporters including his mother, sister, six adult children and friends erupted into applause. The verdict was a rejection of the prosecution's theory: that Combs ran a corrupt criminal enterprise designed to promote him and his sexual desires, including drugging women, physically abusing them and forcing them to have sex with male prostitutes. Combs was convicted of two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution, felonies with maximum sentences of 10 years each in prison. But the jury of eight men and four women acquitted him of crimes that carried a maximum sentence of life in prison: racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking of two former girlfriends, Cassie Ventura and a woman who testified under the pseudonym Jane. The sex trafficking charges also have a mandatory minimum prison sentence of 15 years. The jury returned the verdict after 13 hours of deliberating, following more than six weeks of testimony, hundreds of text messages, and nearly an hour of sexually explicit videos. The trial delved into complexities of relationships and questions of consent and coercion. Some witnesses were emotional, others provided comic relief, like Combs' former stylist Deonte Nash, when they verbally jousted with defense lawyers. Rapper Kid Cudi, the only witness to arrive to court wearing a leather jacket and a cigarette dangling from his lip, testified about dating Ventura, a Molotov cocktail thrown through the roof of his Porsche, and a meeting with Combs who he described as a 'Marvel super villan.' And Kanye West, a friend of Combs, caused a commotion when he showed up at the courthouse. He was denied entry to the courtroom and spent about five minutes watching the trial on a screen in an overflow room before leaving. Jurors' attention was rapt during the testimony of key witnesses, including Ventura, their heads bobbing from questioner to witness. At other times, later in the trial, some rested their eyes as text messages they had already seen were re-read into the record for hours. Combs' lawyers didn't call one witness. The founder of Bad Boy Records, who played a big role in his own defense, passing Post-It notes to his attorney and huddling with them over key decisions, chose not to testify. When informing the judge of his decision, he used it as an opportunity to tell the judge he was doing an 'excellent' job. Over nine weeks a rhythm developed. Members of the media, public and social media streamers lined up outside of the courthouse in heavy rain, cold winds, and steamy temperatures to gain one of the limited seats inside the courtroom. Members of Combs family arrived in black sprinter vans and took their seats in the family section. Court security officers kept order, reminding everyone that talking was not allowed when court was in session. Each morning Combs, his hair now gray, was led by US Marshals into the courtroom wearing a rotation of crew neck sweaters in shades of blue, gray and cream. He always looked for his family, flashed them a smile, a tap on the chest, or blew them a kiss. Judge Arun Subramanian, an energetic erudite judge, set a tight schedule – the trial day started at 9 a.m. and ended at 3 p.m. most days. Initially he allowed only 30 minutes for lunch until prosecutors and the defense team pleaded for more time to eat. Combs stacked his defense team with criminal lawyers from New York and Atlanta, some he has known for years, others he brought on just weeks before the trial began. Marc Agnifilio and Teny Geragos led his defense. Appellate specialists Alexandra Shapiro and Jason Driscoll handled legal arguments over evidence, and Anna Estevao cross examined Ventura. Weeks before the trial began Combs brought on Xavier Donaldson, a criminal defense lawyer in New York, and two trial attorneys from Atlanta, Brian Steel and Nicole Westmoreland, who recently represented rapper Young Thug and a co-defendant, respectfully, in a criminal racketeering trial. The six-member all-female prosecution team was led by Maurene Comey, an experienced prosecutor of complex cases and the daughter of Jim Comey, the former FBI director. They dressed almost identically in black or blue suits, often with their hair tied back. From a distance it could be difficult to tell them apart. Prosecutors were methodical presenting their case, tying the evidence together in a roadmap for the jury. They layered text messages with testimony and hotel invoices. In his closing argument, Agnifilo mocked the prosecution case, congratulating agents with Homeland Security for seizing baby oil used during sexual encounters at Combs homes, drawing laughs from at least one juror. 'I guess it's all worth it because they found the Astroglide. They found it in boxes, boxes of Astroglide taken off the streets,' he said. 'They found the baby oil,' he said, adding, 'Way to go, fellas.' After the verdict was read, prosecutors filed out of the courtroom. Combs' lawyers stayed back, celebrating their partial win. Chants of 'Dream Team' began in the row of supporters, as his attorneys embraced each other. Outside, some of Combs supporters sprayed baby oil on each other. Others wore t-shirts that said 'A freako is not a R.I.C.O.' Agniflio quipped to reporters, that he thought they took baby oil off the streets.

Bravo Star Janet Caperna Flees America After Death Threats From Viewers
Bravo Star Janet Caperna Flees America After Death Threats From Viewers

Yahoo

time29 minutes ago

  • Yahoo

Bravo Star Janet Caperna Flees America After Death Threats From Viewers

, one of the most controversial stars on "The Valley," has fled the United States and locked down her social media accounts after receiving death threats and relentless trolling from viewers. The 35-year-old personality, who plays the role of the main antagonist on the Bravo reality show, left for Switzerland this week with her husband, Jason, and their 18-month-old son, Cameron. Janet Caperna made the difficult decision to secure her Instagram page, where online trolls had relentlessly harassed her. In a series of vile messages, these trolls not only targeted Caperna herself but also her child. One message read, 'I hope you rot like you deserve,' while another cruelly stated, 'I hope your child grows up absolutely hating you.' Even more disturbing, some individuals went so far as to write, 'I know where you live. I've seen where your son goes when you're not with him.' In an interview with the Daily Mail, Janet spoke out about the ongoing abuse, condemning how serious and dangerous online trolling has become. 'I'm sick of threats and slurs being normalized because 'we signed up for this when we joined reality TV,'' she said. 'That's sick and not normal, and I'm not ever going to pretend it's normal or acceptable to message strangers threats and slurs.' Janet also revealed that the situation has taken a toll on her mental health. 'It's sad to me that people go this far, it's definitely the worst part about this 'job.'' She emphasized that while she understands that reality TV invites some criticism, there is a line that should not be crossed. 'This isn't constructive criticism. I understand that I put my life out there, but this isn't that,' she explained. In the latest episode of her podcast, "This Side of the Hill," Janet opened up further, sharing some of the worst messages she had received. One particularly harrowing message read, "I hope you die a slow and painful death, you are so ugly. Are you actually a man? You are evil and I wish death upon you, you piece of sh-t.' Another stated, 'It's a shame your son is still breathing you little [racial slur] lover.' Perhaps even more shocking to Janet and her podcast co-host, Jared Lipscomb, was the discovery that many of the hateful messages were coming from seemingly 'normal and sweet' women. One of the women who had sent threatening messages was a family photographer, while another, who made crude remarks about Janet's son, had photos of herself with her own young child on social media. Janet's frustration and sadness over the situation have prompted her to reflect on the duality of people's behavior in real life versus online. 'It makes me wonder, how many people throughout my day am I interacting with that are like this behind closed doors?' she said. 'Like, when I'm checking out at the grocery store, is that person messaging someone that they don't like hate like this?' Adding to the drama, Janet also spoke about a former friend who had interacted with negative comments about her online. She hinted at Kristen Doute, another co-star, who had responded to a comment questioning the safety of Janet's child with a laughing emoji. "I'm so disappointed in that," Janet said. Meanwhile, "The Valley" is nearing the end of its explosive second season and is gearing up for season three. Fans have been vocal on social media, calling for the firing of both Janet and longtime villain . Janet's ongoing feuds with co-stars Kristen Doute, Nia Sanchez, and Danny Booko have left viewers divided, while Jax has stirred controversy through his actions toward estranged wife Brittany Cartwright, including spying on her through security cameras and sending a series of "rage texts" while in rehab for mental health and addiction issues. Despite the backlash, there are currently no decisions regarding the cast. A source close to production revealed to Daily Mail that the network is considering expanding the cast rather than cutting people. "Fans are always calling for controversial people to be fired, but it's usually to the detriment of the show," the insider explained. "The network is worried that if they get rid of all the villains, the show will suffer, so they're leaning toward expanding the cast rather than reducing it." With production for the next season already underway, new cast members and their friends are being considered to add to the dynamic of the show, ensuring that no one is forced to film with people they don't want to be around.

Taylor Swift's Fan-Favorite Album Suddenly Reappears Inside The Top 10
Taylor Swift's Fan-Favorite Album Suddenly Reappears Inside The Top 10

Forbes

time31 minutes ago

  • Forbes

Taylor Swift's Fan-Favorite Album Suddenly Reappears Inside The Top 10

Taylor Swift's Reputation climbs back into the U.S. top 10 on the Vinyl Albums chart and returns to ... More the Billboard 200 top 40 as fans mourn the loss of Reputation (Taylor's Version). BILLBOARD MUSIC AWARDS — Red Carpet Arrivals — 2018 BBMA's at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada — Pictured: Taylor Swift — (Photo by: Brian Friedman/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images) NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images For years, Taylor Swift fans predicted when she would deliver Reputation (Taylor's Version) . The re-recorded take on her electronic project was one of the most highly anticipated in her Taylor's Version series, but it seems now that such a project will never materialize. The singer-songwriter recently purchased the rights to all of the music featured on her first six albums, something she had hoped to gain for years. Her inability to do so earlier — and therefore profit significantly from continued sales and streams of her catalog — pushed her to re-record and re-release her first half-dozen collections. But now, there's no need for her to finish the venture. Fans may be slightly disappointed that they won't get Reputation (Taylor's Version), because they love the original so much. In fact, listeners in the United States have made Reputation a bestseller again and a standout success among Swift's discography at the moment. Reputation is the breakout winner among Swift's albums in the U.S. as it climbs on multiple tallies and even returns to the top 10 on one ranking. That distinguishes it from all of her other full-lengths, which are almost uniformly declining on the Billboard charts after surging following her exciting announcement just a few weeks ago. This week, Reputation reenters the Vinyl Albums list, becoming Swift's only bestseller on the format. Reputation doesn't just make space on that tally — it blasts back on at No. 7, an impressive relaunch point for a years-old collection. Taylor Swift Almost Scores a Top 10 Bestseller As it reappears inside the top 10 on the Vinyl Albums chart, Reputation nears that region on the Top Album Sales tally, coming in at No. 13. Swift's full-length rockets from No. 37, where it sat last frame, thanks to 4,200 pure purchases, according to Luminate. Swift even manages to send Reputation back into the top 40 on the Billboard 200. This time around, the sometimes-controversial collection jumps from No. 42 to No. 36 with 16,600 equivalent units shifted. That's up less than 1% from the period before, but it's a less competitive moment on Billboard's ranking of the most consumed albums in America, so there's room for Swift to grow. Reputation Stands Out from Taylor Swift's Catalog Eight of Swift's albums appear on at least one Billboard chart this week. The Tortured Poets Department is steady at No. 22 on the Billboard 200, while the original 1989 manages to climb 10 spaces on the same tally. All of her other full-lengths — Lover , Folklore , Midnights , 1989 (Taylor's Version) , and Red (Taylor's Version) — decline everywhere they can be found.

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into a world of global content with local flavor? Download Daily8 app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store