White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett defends Trump's firing of labor statistics head
'What we need is a fresh set of eyes over the BLS,' Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council, told NBC News' 'Meet the Press.'
On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released a monthly jobs report that included weaker-than-expected numbers for July, plus major downward revisions of May and June's numbers.
In a post on Truth Social on Friday, the president said the jobs numbers were 'rigged' and that he'd asked his team to fire BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer.
'We need accurate Jobs Numbers. I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY. She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate,' Trump wrote.
In another Truth Social post, the president added, 'In my opinion, today's Jobs Numbers were RIGGED in order to make the Republicans, and ME, look bad.'
On Sunday, Hassett cast similar doubt on the accuracy of the jobs numbers, pointing to past revisions that were made to jobs reports after then-President Joe Biden stopped running for re-election last year.
'There have been a bunch of patterns that could make people wonder. And I think the most important thing for people to know is that it's the president's highest priority that the data be trusted and that people get to the bottom of why these revisions are so unreliable,' Hassett told 'Meet the Press' moderator Kristen Welker.
He added later in the interview that the Trump administration's goal was to understand why there was such a sizable revision to past months' jobs numbers.
'The bottom line is that there were people involved in creating these numbers. And if I were running the BLS and I had a number that was a huge, politically important revision, the biggest since 1968 actually ... then I would have a really long report explaining exactly what happened. And we didn't get that,' Hassett said.
It's not uncommon for jobs reports to be revised in the months following their release, but Hassett on Sunday emphasized that July's revision was one of the largest he's seen in decades.
Trump faced criticism from Democrats and Republicans in Congress on Friday when he decided to fire McEntarfer, with several Republican senators questioning whether the firing would actually help the Trump administration improve future jobs numbers.
'We have to look somewhere for objective statistics. When the people providing the statistics are fired, it makes it much harder to make judgments that, you know, the statistics won't be politicized,' Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., told NBC News on Friday.
'I'm going to look into it, but first impression is that you can't really make the numbers different or better by firing the people doing the counting,' he added.
On Sunday, Hassett said that installing Trump's 'own people' will help achieve more 'transparent and reliable' jobs reports in the future.
'The president wants his own people there so that when we see the numbers, they're more transparent and more reliable. And if there are big changes and big revisions — we expect more big revisions for the jobs data in September, for example — then we want to know why, we want people to explain it to us,' he said.
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