Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly Agree: It's a Mistake for Republicans to Go on Gavin Newsom's Podcast
'I've said I'm against conservatives going on his podcast because I think it's helping him train for 2028, and I don't think we should help him,' Kelly said of the 'This Is Gavin Newsom' podcast, which launched earlier this year.
Carlson agreed, sharing that he knows Newsom personally and texts with him 'occasionally,' adding of his California credentials that he's from San Francisco and knows Newsom's ex-wife Kimberly Guilfoyle.
The former Fox News host then shared that he originally accepted an invitation to interview on the podcast before having second thoughts.
'I have been bothering him for years, 'You should come on my show.' And he was kind of open to it. And then he whips around and he's like, 'No, you should come on mine,'' Carlson recalled. 'I was like, 'I would love to,' because I would love to debate him about what he's done to my state. And then I watched a parade of people go on, some of whom are good friends mine, and I realized – and I'm not attacking them at all – I almost did, but then I realized, oh, wait a second, the point of this is not to have a real conversation or to answer questions. The point of this is to rehabilitate.'
Carlson then took a dagger to Newsom's character, saying he is 'legit smart' but that there is nothing 'at all at the core other than misery — another deeply, deeply unhappy person who we should be rooting for him to get his life together, but someone who kind of externalizes everything.'
'There's nothing at the center, and so everything is about the public display,' he said. 'A truly wounded, screwed up person on a very deep level — not joking — but also a talented person who will say anything, which in politics is an advantage.'
Watch the full 'Megyn Kelly Show' segment below:
Representatives from Gov. Newsom's office did not immediately respond to TheWrap's request for comment.
It's not the first time 'This Is Gavin Newsom' has come under fire on 'The Megyn Kelly Show,' with guest Charlie Kirk — conservative media personality and Turning Point USA co-founder — saying that the media effort will derail Newsom's political career.
Shortly after, Newsom defended the podcast project, saying that the point is not to 'go viral' or 'own the conservatives' by winning any debates. Instead, the Democratic politician said his new podcast is about 'exploring' what Republicans think — and why their message resonated with more voters during the 2024 election.
Watch the full segment from Carlson's appearance on Kelly's podcast in the video above.
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Boston Globe
16 minutes ago
- Boston Globe
Conservatives get the PBS and NPR cuts they've wanted for decades
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'It's all part of a plan to intimidate and control the media and how they cover his presidency,' he said. Advertisement But the willingness of congressional Republicans to vote for a complete cutoff of federal money to public broadcasting also says a lot about sweeping changes in media, and views of mainstream journalism, since Congress passed the 1967 law that led to the creation of PBS and NPR. The ascendant ideology of the Trump era is the opposite of the one that spawned the modern public broadcasting system. Its creation was spurred along by the declaration of Newton Minow, chair of the Federal Communications Commission during the Kennedy administration, that the competition for ratings and ad dollars had turned television into a 'vast wasteland' of 'game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder.' He beseeched broadcasters to 'make a conscientious, good-faith effort to serve the public interest' with higher-quality fare. 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Paul, now a U.S. senator, has helped lead a libertarian-leaning revolution within the Republican Party that pushed greater distrust of government bureaucracy. Days before he voted for the cuts, he said that he wasn't 'an enemy of public TV' but that the government needed to spend less. But the cuts went a bit far for an earlier would-be slasher, Gingrich, who later became a supporter of public broadcasting despite his continuing concerns about bias. (He and his wife, Callista, have a documentary on PBS, 'Journey to America With Newt and Callista Gingrich.') Gingrich said in an interview Wednesday that congressional Republicans were now succeeding where he had failed because the perceived — and, in his view, worsening — liberal tilt on national NPR and PBS programs had finally cost them support. Advertisement 'It's much easier to mobilize the country to just say, 'Enough,'' he said. 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