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BBC says it should have pulled livestream of rap group Bob Vylan's act over 'antisemitic' chants

BBC says it should have pulled livestream of rap group Bob Vylan's act over 'antisemitic' chants

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The BBC said Monday it should have pulled a livestream of rap group Bob Vylan's performance at Glastonbury Festival over 'antisemitic' chants against Israeli troops.
The British broadcaster has come under heavy criticism for broadcasting the rap punk duo's performance Saturday, when rapper Bobby Vylan led crowds attending the U.K.'s largest summer music festival in chants of 'free, free Palestine' and 'death, death to the IDF,' the Israel Defense Forces.
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timean hour ago

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Kneecap owe Keir Starmer, the BBC and Helen from Wales a thank you

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Neil McCormick: Why Oasis are the greatest rock band of the modern age
Neil McCormick: Why Oasis are the greatest rock band of the modern age

Irish Independent

timean hour ago

  • Irish Independent

Neil McCormick: Why Oasis are the greatest rock band of the modern age

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Rebel Fred Perry became UK exile and served in US Air Force in WWII after he was ostracised by Wimbledon snobs
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The Irish Sun

time8 hours ago

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Rebel Fred Perry became UK exile and served in US Air Force in WWII after he was ostracised by Wimbledon snobs

ANDY MURRAY will soon become only the second person to be honoured with a statue at the All England Club. And having ended a 77-year wait for a British men's singles champion at Wimbledon, few would argue against Advertisement 11 Fred Perry was the last British man before Andy Murray to win Wimbledon Credit: AFP 11 He secured three Wimbledon crowns but was exiled from the UK Credit: Getty - Contributor 11 He had a string of relationships, including a romance with Jean Harlow Credit: PA:Press Association Yet even Murray's inspiring life and career - including three Major titles, two Olympic golds and a Davis Cup - pale in comparison with the only previous player to be handed this accolade, Fred Perry. As the first man to complete a career Grand Slam, a Especially as he had been a world champion at table tennis, as well as the undisputed king of the lawns. Yet nothing could be further from the truth. Advertisement READ MORE ON WIMBLEDON Not only was Perry a working-class man from Stockport and the son of a Labour MP, he was also a fashionista, a lothario, a heart-throb, a rebel and, ultimately, an exile. He dated Hollywood sirens, including Marlene Dietrich and Jean Harlow, he married four times and, after emigrating and taking American citizenship, Perry served in the US Air Force during World War Two. In an age of intense class-based snobbery and of strict amateurism in tennis, the elitist plum-suckers in the Wimbledon boardroom decided that Perry was a lad from the wrong side of the chalk lines. When he turned professional in 1937, Perry was stripped of his All England Club membership, went on lengthy world tours and settled in the States - where he felt far more accepted than in stuffy pre-war Britain. Advertisement Most read in Sport CASINO SPECIAL - BEST CASINO BONUSES FROM £10 DEPOSITS The first of Murray's two Wimbledon triumphs in 2013 ended a wait for a British men's singles champion which had stretched back to Perry's hat-trick of successes between 1934 and 1936. And while the Scot was something of an outsider and an anti-establishment figure - especially in his early days - he competed in far more enlightened times than Perry, who was the victim of overt discrimination from the authorities. Sue Barker returns to Wimbledon in new role a year after legendary BBC presenter's emotional Andy Murray interview As well as his working-class northern roots, Perry was also frowned upon because he was simply too competitive, occasionally even showing dissent towards umpires - which was unheard of in the 30s. Advertisement He was extremely fast across the court and, unlike many of his competitors, was supremely fit - often training with the dominant Arsenal team of the 1930s to develop his sharpness. But after a comprehensive victory over Australian Jack Crawford to win his first Wimbledon title - celebrated with a Centre Court cartwheel and a leap over the net - Perry suffered one of his most memorable instances of All England Club snobbery. While soaking in a bath after coming off court, Perry claims he heard upper-crust committee member Brame Hillyard tell runner-up Crawford that "this was one day when the best man didn't win". Hillyard then draped Perry's Wimbledon tie - symbolising his membership of the All England Club - over a seat rather than presenting it to the champion in person. Advertisement Perry later wrote in his autobiography: 'I don't think I've ever been so angry in my life. Instead of Fred J Perry the champ, I felt like Fred J Muggs the chimp. 'Some elements in the All England Club and the Lawn Tennis Association looked down on me as a hot-headed, outspoken tearaway rebel, not quite the class of chap they really wanted to see winning Wimbledon, even if he was English.' 11 Perry was a fashion star as well as a sporting hero Credit: Alamy 11 He went out with Marlene Dietrich Credit: Rex Advertisement 11 Perry's first marriage, with American film star Helen Vinson, lasted five years Credit: Times Newspapers Ltd 11 Andy Murray will follow in Perry's footsteps with a statue at the All England Club Credit: Getty Images - Getty And Perry certainly wasn't the only British sporting great of his era to become ostracised by snobbish attitudes. Harold Larwood, the great England fast bowler and hero of the Bodyline triumph over Don Bradman's Aussies in 1932-33, became a scapegoat for the diplomatic crisis sparked by the ruthless tactics of his upper-class captain Douglas Jardine. 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'I never thought I'd live to see the day when a statue was put up to the son of a Labour MP inside the manicured grounds of Wimbledon,' he wrote in his memoirs. 'There will be a few former members of the All England Club and the LTA revolving in their graves at the thought of such a tribute paid to the man they regarded as a rebel from the wrong side of the tennis tramlines.' Murray, who often felt his Scottishness was held against him during his early days at Wimbledon, never really knew the half of it. Advertisement 11 His name lives on as the clothing brand Credit: Getty 11 He was briefly married to Sandra Breaux Credit: AP:Associated Press 11 The Stockport native was also a world champion at table tennis Credit: Times Newspapers Ltd 11 Perry died aged 85 in 1995 Credit: Times Newspapers Ltd Advertisement

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