
Mediawatch: Bad Stats And Stereotypes Boost Bootcamp Bid
On Anzac Day, pundit Matthew Hooton floated the return of national military service in his weekly New Zealand Herald column headlined 'The case for universal military training'.
After setting out the country's current financial problems, he proposed getting a bit more of a social bang out of the big bucks that – like it or not – we'll soon be spending on defence.
'Why not invest it in universal military training – not as an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, like boot camps, but as a fence at the top?' he asked.
He described the idea as 'Outward Bound for everyone' but with military skills added – along with 'cooking, cleaning, changing a tyre and making a school lunch – skills their Gen X and Gen Y parents have failed to teach them or develop themselves.'
Each year 70,000 New Zealanders turn 18, and he reckoned about 9000 of those aren't in employment, education or training and they're already costing taxpayers anyway.
It's an interesting idea. Many nations – including several in the EU – have compulsory national service and there could be social and individual benefits to such a scheme.
In 2023 political party TOP floated a national civic service programme offering a $5000 tax-free savings boost to under-23s.
But this week that talking point morphed into a talk radio pile-on deploying stereotypes and misusing statistics.
Talk radio amps the idea
Universal military service got universal backing from talkback callers to the Herald's stablemate Newstalk ZB this week.
'Kids that have got ADHD and some on the spectrum could actually benefit a lot from it,' one caller confidently claimed on Monday, basing her opinion on reality TV shows where people are 'stuck on an island and left to fend for themselves.'
But ZB Afternoons host Matt Heath reckoned the problem wasn't young people on the spectrum – but on their phones.
'They'd be scared to be stripped of their digital rights, but a lot of them know that that would be a good thing for them. There's no doubt that you would feel a lot better after a day's physical activity out in the wop-wops,' he told ZB listeners last Monday
When Gen-Xer Heath created the irreverent youth TV show Back of the Y 30 years ago, you'd have got long odds on him endorsing military service for young Kiwis on talk radio thirty years later.
But he wasn't alone.
'I love the idea,' ZB Wellington Mornings host Nick Mills said the same day.
'We're not talking about someone that wants to be a doctor, a teacher or an apprentice mechanic. We're talking about directionless people. Off you go to compulsory six months in military training. What's wrong with it?'
'One in four 15-to-19 year olds do not have a job. 25 per cent of young, healthy New Zealanders don't have work,' he told listeners.
But many of the 25 percent without a job are still at school, university, polytechnic or in training. Universal or compulsory military service would also capture the would-be doctors, traders and tradies in work, education or training.
But Mills' callers – most of whom sounded like their working lives were long behind them – still liked the sound of it for today's young Kiwis nonetheless.
Sounding the alarm with stats
While he wasn't explicitly backing universal national service, columnist and broadcaster Duncan Garner also reckoned compulsory bootcamp was an idea whose time had come.
'Our teenagers aren't working! One in four 15 to 19 year-olds are not employed, not working, not in education or training. One in four! 25 percent!' his Editor in Chief podcast proclaimed.
'The stats don't lie,' Garner insisted in his podcast.
His column for The Listener headlined When did our teens stop working and whose fault is it? seized on Stats NZ data to the end of 2024 showing 23.8 percent of 15-19 year olds were jobless.
But that included those still in school, university or in training and the actual proportion of under 25s not in employment, education, or training (NEETs) was 13.2 per cent in December 2024.
In the Listener, Garner lamented 'tens of thousands of young men and women who don't attend school, work or some form of training … who are idle at home'.
'It's not just a ticking time bomb. Because I truly believe the bomb's gone off with these numbers.'
'They're gaming. They're on social media, doomscrolling. Not in any form of training or education,' he claimed on Editor in Chief.
If Kiwi youths really are doomscrolling in their tens of thousands, that'd be great for the media – given that it means flipping through troubling news headlines many times each day.
How many are there really?
The MSD Insights report in 2023 said 39,000 people under 25 were receiving a main benefit in 2023 – and about half of those were getting Jobseeker Support.
It'll be a bit more than that by now given rising unemployment in 2024, but it's likely there would be roughly 20,000 under 25s currently classed as 'work ready' but not working, learning or training today.
The unemployment rate is higher – and growing faster – for 15-19 year olds than in any other age group. And the rate of young people who are NEET – not in employment, education, or training – went up more than one percent to 13.2 percent in the quarter to December – the last period where stats are available.
Not good.
But in the past decade the previous annual peak was 12.8 percent in the year to March 2021. The low point was 11.2 percent two years later.
A Stats NZ analysis of 2004 to 2024 showed the NEET rate was higher than it is today from the GFC of 2008 until 2014.
Even when we had a so-called rockstar economy back in the 2010s, the rate didn't go below 11.5 per cent, according to MSD stats.
Jobs harder to get
In his Listener article, Garner acknowledged it's harder for young people to get jobs now because older people here are working longer and we've had record immigration in recent years.
An 20 percent analysis by Berl in March confirmed that.
But Berl also found the labour force participation rate for 15-24 year olds increased in the last quarter of 2024 by 2.5 percent to 66.4 percent.
It reached a high of 69.2 percent in 2024. In September that year, recruitment company Eclipse identified a 'surge in participation rates among 15-19 year olds in the last two years'.
'Factors such as tightened education policies, economic conditions, and evolving job market dynamics have influenced youth decisions,' Eclipse said, which – if true – means more young people adapting and not opting to sit idle at home.
'They are eager to work,' said Berl's analysis in March.
'It could also mean that youth and young adults are exploring other avenues of occupation, such as tertiary education – including vocational education.'
And also Australia.
'The brain drain could become a brain flood if young adults … move there to take advantage of the stronger job market.'
In which case, the prospect of compulsory military service would probably become another push factor for thousands of young Kiwis who do have education, training and plans.
Unemployment for 15-24 year-olds is significantly lower in Australia, as Duncan Garner pointed out in The Listener, and welfare rules are also tighter.
But in the first two months of this year alone, it climbed from under 8 percent to over 10 in Australia.
Mediawatch couldn't find a rash of comment in the media there claiming a lost generation of jobless, directionless Australians are heading straight to the social welfare scrapheap, clutching their digital devices.
Youth unemployment and welfare dependency are a real – and expensive – issues. National service is an interesting idea that could deliver social and individual benefits.
But putting thousands of young people with prospects into military service alongside a much smaller number of jobless, undereducated ones is unlikely to ease the main problem of an underperforming, unproductive economy.
And those in the media opining about it should deploy more of the discipline they claim is lacking in the young when they seize on statistics to reinforce stereotypes.
Hashtags

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles


NZ Herald
an hour ago
- NZ Herald
New Zealand sporting bodies unite to fight proposed Online Casino Gambling Bill
Cycling New Zealand chair Martin Snedden is leading the charge against the legislation and told Newstalk ZB it poses a 'massive risk' to grassroots sport. 'This is a crazy move by the Government,' Snedden said. 'Sport has thrived for decades off the back of community gambling grants. It all goes to clubs, not professional sport. 'There had been no consultation with the sport sector, no warning that this was coming. As soon as I saw it, I recognised the extent of the risk to community funding.' Snedden said the timing couldn't be worse, with clubs already struggling amid rising costs, shrinking sponsorship and reduced support from financially stretched local governments. He's urging ministers to revisit the bill's design and reinstate the original intent behind early drafts, which included a requirement for international operators to contribute to community funding. 'The Prime Minister, the Minister of Sport, Mark Mitchell, the Associate Minister of Sport, Chris Bishop, they all love sport dearly,' Snedden said. 'I'm sure they're not going to allow something to go through that is ultimately going to have a dramatic negative impact on the future of community sport. I just can't imagine that they would be prepared to do that and to take that risk. 'The Government should be saying to the international operators, you are going to be contributing if you want to operate in New Zealand. 'Part of the reason you're allowed to do so is that part of your money is going to be going into community and that's a good thing.' After the bill passed its first reading, van Velden said the bill was important to protect New Zealanders. 'New Zealanders can legally access thousands of offshore gambling websites. But the market is unregulated, so there are no player safety standards or oversight of harm minimisation,' she said. 'My intention with this bill is to ensure that online gambling is safer for New Zealanders who wish to gamble online to do so. 'In addition, that companies providing this service contribute to tax revenue and funding the services that treat gambling harm in New Zealand.' Public submissions close in two weeks on August 17.


Scoop
2 hours ago
- Scoop
ACT Launches Largest Local Government Campaign In New Zealand
ACT Local has today unveiled its full slate of candidates for the 2025 local body elections: 46 practical, community-minded New Zealanders standing across 25 councils. With 37 ward and constituency level candidates, it's the largest local government campaign mounted by a political party in New Zealand, including Labour and the Greens who have stood council candidates for many years. ACT Local is standing a further 9 candidates for Auckland Local Board positions. 'These are New Zealanders who've had enough of being ignored by their councils,' says ACT Leader David Seymour. 'They're stepping up to deliver real change and lower rates. 'ACT's candidates come from all walks of life; we have business owners, tradies, healthcare workers, farmers, and many professionals. What unites them is a belief in sensible spending, equal rights, and a back-to-basics approach. They're ready to bring real-world experience and common sense to the council table. 'Many have built successful careers, but more importantly, they're local residents and ratepayers – people who've built homes, raised families, and dealt firsthand with council bureaucracy. They know what it's like to stretch a budget and deal with the challenges people face locally. 'Now they're stepping forward to bring practical solutions and a laser focus on core services like roads, water, and rubbish. 'In central government, ACT is cutting waste, defending equal rights, and taking pressure off households. Our councillors will do the same: vote against wasteful spending, stand up for democratic principles, and focus on essential services without driving up rates. 'Kiwis voted for real change in 2023, but our councils missed the memo. 'While ratepayers face eye-watering rate hikes, councils are blowing money on vanity projects, pushing ideological agendas like co-governance, and wasting time grandstanding about global politics – all while ignoring the basics. 'Every local election, voters get the little booklet with their ballot paper and tick whoever they think will do the best job. But too often, you don't know what you are going to get. Candidates promise one thing and then do another. With ACT Local candidates, you'll know exactly where they stand. 'So if there's an ACT Local candidate in your area and you want real change from your council, I hope you will give them your support.' Candidate profiles can be found here. A full list of our candidates is below: Northland Far North District Council Davina Smolders – Bay of Islands–Whangaroa Ward Whangārei District Council Matthew Yovich – Bream Bay Ward Kaipara District Council Nima Maleiki – Kaiwaka–Mangawhai Ward Roger Billington – Otamatea Ward Auckland Council & Local Boards Albany Ward and Hibiscus and Bays Local Board (Hibiscus Coast Subdivision) Samuel Mills North Shore Ward and Devonport-Takapuna Local Board Helena Roza Franklin Ward and Franklin Local Board (Wairoa Subdivision) Dene Green Howick Ward and Howick Local Board (Botany Subdivision) Ali Dahche Manukau Ward and Ōtara-Papatoetoe Local Board (Ōtara Subdivision) Henrietta Devoe Hibiscus and Bays Local Board (Hibiscus Coast Subdivision) Yang Qu Kaipātiki Local Board Martin Lundqvist Henderson-Massey Local Board Ben Cox Ōrākei Local Board Martin Mahler Amanda Lockyer Robert Meredith Howick Local Board (Pakuranga Subdivision) Pat Arroyo Howick Local Board (Howick Subdivision) William Goldberg Papakura Local Board Prasad Gawande Central & Lower North Island Waikato District Council Peter Mayall – Tamahere–Woodlands Ward Hauraki District Council Michelle Magnus – Paeroa Ward Andrew Pickford – Plains Ward Waipa District Council Stuart Hylton – Cambridge Ward Hamilton City Council Nidhita Gosai – West Ward Preet Dhaliwal – East Ward New Plymouth District Council Damon Fox – Kaitake–Ngāmotu Ward Napier City Council Iain Bradley – Ahuriri Ward Manawatū District Council Jerry Pickford – Feilding Ward Aaron McLeod – Feilding Ward Palmerston North City Council Glen Williams – General Ward Porirua City Council Phill Houlihan – Pāuatahanui Ward Greater Wellington Regional Council Nigel Elder – Lower Hutt Constituency Alice Claire Hurdle – Wellington Constituency Wellington City Council Ray Bowden – Onslow–Western Ward Mark Flynn – Northern Ward Luke Kuggeleijn – Eastern Ward South Island Candidates Tasman District Council David Ross – Motueka Ward Daniel Shirley – Richmond Ward Marlborough District Council Malcolm Taylor – Marlborough Sounds Ward John Hyndman – Blenheim Ward Hurunui District Council Tom Spooner – South Ward Waimakariri District Council Nathan Atkins – Kaiapoi–Woodend Ward Selwyn District Council Chris Till – Rolleston Ward Timaru District Council John Bolt – Timaru Ward Environment Canterbury Regional Council Toni Severin – South Canterbury Constituency Otago Regional Council Robbie Byars – Molyneux Constituency Dunedin City Council Anthony Kenny – Council At-large Ward


Newsroom
5 hours ago
- Newsroom
National makes economic pitch after Trump tariffs setback
Analysis: It's the economy, stupid. If the 10-minute cost of living sermon delivered by Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Finance Minister Nicola Willis on Monday left any doubts about where National sees its re-election hopes living (or dying), they were dispelled at the party's annual conference on Saturday. With just four hours open to the media, a full hour was set aside for a not-so-pithily titled session on 'growing the economy to reduce the cost of living for all New Zealanders' – the same time allocated to health, education, law and order, and rural issues combined. Two of Luxon's more reliable performers, Willis and Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop, led the session alongside Tourism Minister Louise Upston in a further sign of the importance placed by the party on assuring members and the wider public they, rather than Labour, are best placed to look after the bottom line. It was a message hammered by Luxon during his own address to the party faithful in Christchurch, saying the fiscal conditions the coalition had inherited from the last Labour government were 'the worst in a generation'. 'The national debt had tripled, inflation hit a thirty-year high, homeowners were crushed by a surge in interest rates, and critical growth industries like agriculture and energy were under constant siege.' While the Government had made progress, many New Zealanders were still struggling to keep up with the cost of living, the Prime Minister conceded. The solution, at least in part? According to Luxon, 'we have to say yes to letting it happen'. 'We can't afford to leave any stone unturned, shut down whole sectors, or just sit around and hope that conditions will improve.' That was the argument behind the policy centrepiece of his speech – a loosening of the rules around granting permits (or concessions, as they are formally known) for commercial activities on Department of Conservation land, while also introducing a charge for foreign tourists at four locations where they made up more than 80 percent of all visitors: Cathedral Cove, Tongariro Crossing, Milford Sound, and Mount Cook. Exactly how the latter element will be put into practice remains somewhat uncertain: 'We have to organise and sort out how that's going to work, but there are ways and means to do that,' Conservation Minister Tama Potaka told journalists, with the four chosen sites functioning as a trial before any wider rollout. Senior ministers Nicola Willis and Chris Bishop led National's defence on its handling of the economy. Photo: Sam Sachdeva The changes to concessions on conservation land attracted criticism from Forest and Bird, which claimed they would 'make it easier to sell off or commercially exploit these areas'. That is an argument unlikely to win favour with the current coalition, as demonstrated by Bishop channelling his inner Shane Jones as he promised the Government's resource management reforms would make it easier to build new wind farms (among other projects). 'We've got the best wind in the world, and we spent years arguing about how we could build wind farms that don't result in the death of just one bird or one lizard, one snail.' It is clear he views the replacement of the much maligned Resource Management Act as a legacy-defining moment for himself and the coalition, emphasising the billions of dollars in compliance costs in the coming decades that could be eradicated with successful reforms. 'That's why I don't get a lot of sleep. That's what keeps me up at night, worrying about it, because we have got to get it right.' As David Parker found, however, such lofty ambitions can swiftly be undone by a political successor, and National will need to find a faster economic fix if it is to be in government long enough for any RMA reforms to bear fruit. One such 'quick win' – the decision to ban surcharges on in-store card payments – has not proved universally popular, with one delegate questioning National's claim to be the party of small business. 'Under [Sir John] Key, we got Mondayisation [of public holidays]. Under Cindy [Dame Jacinda Ardern], we got Matariki, more recently, an extra percent in KiwiSaver, sick days gone from five to 10 days, and now you're looking at getting rid of merchant fees. 'Now the interchange fee is only part of it, so I think we need to reassess that.' Another party member, who worked with small businesses run by migrants and refugees, said many were struggling to pay wages, rent and other costs in the current environment. In return, Willis offered sympathy – 'man oh man, it has been a tough time to be a small business in New Zealand' – but also indicated there was little room for new state support. 'We know where growth and prosperity comes from, and it doesn't actually come from the Government saying, 'I'll write you a cheque. It comes from the Government saying, 'I'll get out of the way and I'll make sure that business people can go and invest and do things and make things and hire people'.' An economic boost could be around the corner, she suggested, with more households due to move onto lower interest rates for their mortgages and free up money to pump back into the economy. That is certainly possible, but there is one rather large complicating factor: the impact of United States President Donald Trump's tariffs. While the Reserve Bank has indicated the tariffs are unlikely to have an inflationary impact on the New Zealand economy, it has also noted household spending and business investment are both significantly hampered by economic uncertainty such as that attached to the Trump tariffs. Friday's unpleasant surprise that New Zealand exports would face a 15 percent tariff into the US, rather than the 10 percent announced back in April, has led the Government to take a slightly more assertive approach to what Luxon labelled a 'rather late decision' from the Trump administration. Trade and Investment Minister Todd McClay told the audience he had spoken to US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer on Saturday morning, and was dispatching his 'top trade diplomat' – Vangelis Vitalis – to Washington DC next week for talks. It seems difficult to see Greer or Trump making an exception for New Zealand, however, given 15 percent is the new 'floor' for any country that does not buy more from the US than it sends in the other direction. As Luxon noted, every other country is dealing with the same challenging environment and must forge ahead regardless; any self-pity would risk being seen as hypocrisy, anyway, given he and his ministers have hardly offered Labour any credit for the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on its economic performance in government. 'We can navigate some pretty choppy seas to get to the destination we want to get to, but for that to happen, you've got to have the right people with the hands on the tiller, which is us,' the Prime Minister said. Luxon was at pains to emphasise the coalition was only halfway into its term, with 'a lot of work to do as a government' – but next year's election is creeping ever closer, and he will need some luck to come his way if the economy is to be a trump card rather than a Trump-addled drag on National's vote in 2026.