Indianapolis 500 2025 rookies include one driver bumped from 2024 starting grid
Regardless of what happens in the 2025 Indianapolis 500, the rookie class has made a surprisingly strong impression.
Robert Shwartzman, driving for first-year IndyCar Series team Prema Racing, stunned the series by earning the pole position with a 232.790 mph run over four laps on the 2.5-mile Indianapolis Motor Speedway oval in Fast Six qualifying.
Louis Foster of Rahal Letterman Lanigan and Nolan Siegel of Arrow McLaren join Shwartzman on the 33-car starting grid. IndyCar rookie Jacob Abel was bumped from the field.
The 2024 Indy NXT champion qualified 3rd and finished 11th in Indianapolis road course race on May 10.
Shwartzman, who competed in the World Endurance Championship in 2024, has two 18th-place finishes this year.
Siegel competed in 12 IndyCar Series races in 2024, and has a best finish of 9th this year.
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